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[00:00]<z2zjvdzg>on pure64?
[00:00]<juvfrwo9>yea
[00:01]<fxyfyfs>Has anyone else tried to build 2.6.18 w/ make-kpkg? It is complaining about UTS Release not being defined in version.h.
[00:01]<juvfrwo9>philips: why are you building a kernel that old?
[00:01]<vjgsjllas>netsplit ftb.
[00:02]<juvfrwo9>philips: oppss, my mistake :D
[00:02]<fxyfyfs>outlaw84: haha 2.6.18-rc12.6.18-rc1
[00:03]<ggnr>2.6.18 isn't very old
[00:03]<fxyfyfs>it is still in release canidate. But in any case I have no idea _what_ UTS_RELEASE is or how to fix it...
[00:03]<hjvwyzn>robin_sz, pool/main/e/epiphany-browser/epiphany-browser_1.4.8-3_i386.deb is on CD 1 so i should be ok, but thanks for the heads up anyway :)
[00:04]<ggnr>philips: try the LKML, someone probably posted some sort of detail or summary
[00:04]<luzmgzzgmzgy>this is verbose output : http://channels.debian.net/paste/3094
[00:06]<fyzrg_>is the 'ftp' command available on a package called 'ftp' or otherwise?
[00:06]<vjgsjllas>should be ftp
[00:07]<fyzrg_>i know this i unrelated but im on knoppmyth which is based on debian still but apt can't find that package (im after an update)
[00:07]<ej2yg_se>interesting .. someone has got Adeos/Xenomai running on the blackfin embedded board
[00:08]<ej2yg_se>oops, ww
[00:09]<fxyfyfs>Gnea: yep, looks like it was moved from version.h to utsrelease.h
[00:09]<fxyfyfs>Gnea: great.... time to write a page for make-kpkg...
[00:15]<zfzzyssz>whats a a good editor inside shell for files like xorg.conf ?
[00:16]<z2zjvdzg>vi
[00:16]<zfzzyssz>abrotman, thank you
[00:17]<zfzzyssz>abrotman, and what i have to press to edit and later to save and leave?
[00:17]<mysjzmnz>clarissa: try nano
[00:17]<yvzzy>does Debian come with an option to make a bootdisk?
[00:17]<zfzzyssz>disorder, aah good now i see commands :)
[00:18]<yvzzy>i'm trying to make a bootdisk with linux but my other computer (linux) won't boot with it.
[00:18]<yvzzy>i'm using FC5 right now.
[00:19]<yvzzy>the boot disk just makes the computer hang instead of going to the setup screen.
[00:19]<ggnr>!bootdisk
[00:19]<mlcr>bootdisk is, like, at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-<platform>, where platform is i386, powerpc, sparc, m68k, arm, or alpha, or at any mirror site
[00:19]<yvzzy>can't figure out why
[00:19]<zfzzyssz>good now it starts gnome cause i removed driver "ati" and put in "vesa" :)
[00:19]<ggnr>itari: try that
[00:19]<yvzzy>k, thanks
[00:20]<gydr>hello
[00:20]<yvzzy>do i need the boot img or the root img? i'm thinking boot.
[00:21]<yvzzy>right?
[00:21]<yvzzy>oh, wait .. i se
[00:21]<yvzzy>see
[00:21]<zfzzyssz>does a tutor exist for internet through dhcp with router ? cause i havent internet
[00:21]<yvzzy>thanks gnea
[00:21]<mysjzmnz>clarissa: man interfaces
[00:22]<yvzzy>does debian use resize2fs like Fedora? and which OS do you think is better .... debian or FC?
[00:23]<vxyrrpysx>itari: what do you think, that all us Debian users are closet Fedora fans?
[00:23]<yvzzy>well ... maybe you have a different opinion. i like fedora ... but i'm sure Debian kicks butt too
[00:23]<cvwyfyrxv>haha
[00:24]<vxyrrpysx>fedora does its thing...we do ours.
[00:24]<cvwyfyrxv>just a matter of preference i find
[00:24]<cvwyfyrxv>just try and you'll see?
[00:24]<yvzzy>any of you IT professionals? i'm thinking of doing information technology systems and networking. don't know if i could do programming.
[00:24]<yvzzy>ktwilight; okay
[00:24]<drycjf>anyone know why wine restarts X? or why winecfg is just a blacck window that when clicked on makes the entire screen black
[00:25]<mrdy>itari:fedora is easy to install but hard to use , debian is easy to use a bit ugly about installation , so debian:)
[00:25]<yvzzy>k ..
[00:25]<yvzzy>going to check out that debaian thing
[00:26]<yvzzy>Debian .. sorry.
[00:27]<gve>I am getting the message that my packages are not verified when installing via apt-get from mirrors.kernel.org on etch I need help solving this problem, I did what it said in the "2006 key" factiod but I am still having the issue
[00:29]<gve>ah, nm I figured it out.. I had to reload my package cache I guess
[00:31]<gve>I have another question though. what are my options in etch for hiding the boot messages? I am looking into the kernel-patch-bootsplash but its description says "The patch should work for kernels 2.4.18, 2.4.20 - 2.4.25, 2.6.0-test9 - 2.6.0-test11, and 2.6.0 - 2.6.4." and I am using the 2.6.15 that came with etch
[00:32]<gve>even if it just truncated or cleaned them up a little that would be nice way too many messages about already loaded modules and other crap I really rather not have to explain to first time users
[00:35]<gve>looks like I will have to compile my own kernel for that thing to work.. I guess I really dont have a choice
[00:39]<cvwyfyrxv>nvz, why ya downgrading?
[00:39]<gve>downgrading? who said anything about downgrading?
[00:40]<cvwyfyrxv>you said you're using 2.6.15, and it works with 2.6.4?
[00:40]<cvwyfyrxv>"I have another question though. what are my options in etch for hiding the boot messages? I am looking into the kernel-patch-bootsplash but its description says "The patch should work for kernels 2.4.18, 2.4.20 - 2.4.25, 2.6.0-test9 - 2.6.0-test11, and 2.6.0 - 2.6.4." and I am using the 2.6.15 that came with etch"
[00:41]<gve>I didnt say anything there about downgrading
[00:41]<cvwyfyrxv>fine
[00:41]<gve>thats a quote directly from the package description
[00:41]<cvwyfyrxv>true
[00:41]<hjvwyzn>doesn't "2.6.0 - 2.6.4" include all kernels between
[00:42]<zddygysvzzvjz>hi
[00:42]<gve>afaik 2.6.4 doesnt even exist
[00:42]<zddygysvzzvjz>My monitor has different color settings such as sRGB etc.. what are these for and how to adjust them properly?
[00:42]<gve>er.. I mean 2.6.15 is newer
[00:42]<nzsdvyznz>can debian be installed remotely from another machine?
[00:43]<gve>what I am getting at is that damn patch comes with testing and doesnt support any of testings kernels :p
[00:43]<gve>but screw it I dont feel like compiling a kernel anyhow
[00:46]<gve>easytiger: what is the other machine running?
[00:46]<nzsdvyznz>suse 10
[00:46]<gve>you could possible ssh in and debtakeover :P
[00:46]<gve>!debtakeover
[00:46]<mlcr>Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/. You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin.
[00:47]<rnnnd>debtakeover is for woody
[00:47]<rnnnd>AFAIK it has not been ported to sarge
[00:47]<gve>*shrug*
[00:47]<anffd-xjdn>easytiger: can you boot the machine from network?
[00:47]<rnnnd>well, be careful to suggest it
[00:48]<nzsdvyznz>jelly-home: possibly yea
[00:48]<nzsdvyznz>i've never done it before
[00:50]<ajmdgjvns_>Hi guys. I know it might be a bad idea installing testing packages on a stable system, but what about installing stable packages on testing? Will that cause potential problems?
[00:50]<anffd-xjdn>easytiger: that would be one way to do it, but I suppose you can easily lock yourself out if you're not familiar with the procedure.
[00:51]<nzsdvyznz>its just monitors in a fragile condition and i don't fancy moving it about
[00:51]<anffd-xjdn>easytiger: what about setting up the serial console?
[00:52]<nzsdvyznz>jelly-home: ha. i dont have the gear. not done that for a while since i used solaris
[00:52]<nzsdvyznz>was handy, when it worked
[00:55]<nzsdvyznz>ye olde `tip` commande would be handy
[00:55]<anffd-xjdn>easytiger: hm. no more ideas. Is it a brand-name server with remote console over web? ;-)
[00:56]<nzsdvyznz>jelly-home: lol. alas no
[00:56]<nzsdvyznz>http://blog.nanorails.com/articles/2006/07/01/remote-ubuntu-dapper-drake-install







