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[17:45]<ymnynm>Thank you, mafioso_ph & Southern_Gentlem, cheers ;)
[17:45]<drlyjsj_lx>you're welcome lad
[17:46]<ymnynm>glad to read that :)
[17:46]<drlyjsj_lx>IDzied: always consult www.fedorasolved.org first for problems and such
[17:48]<sjuvxgzg_gggvfgd>lol thanks mafioso_ph
[17:48]<ymnynm>You are right, I will try doing it myself next time
[17:51]<sjuvxgzg_gggvfgd>IDzied, or come in and ask
[17:54]<ymnynm>Southern_Gentlem: Thank you
[17:58]<ymnynm>Why is that when I mount the NTFS partitions nautilus opens and says No Permission, when I can go trough console I read all files? I just want to know (it works anyway)
[17:59]<sjuvxgzg_gggvfgd>mount -a
[17:59]<sjuvxgzg_gggvfgd>did you do that in the link i posted
[18:01]<ymnynm>i did almost, but not step by step, sorry i didn't realise about -a
[18:01]<sjuvxgzg_gggvfgd>IDzied, you have to do everything in the howto
[18:02]<ymnynm>Southern_Gentlem: sure
[18:02]<ymnynm>by the way how can I configure nautilus to open directorys in the same window instead of each one in a different window?
[18:04]<ymnynm>I found it once, but can't locate it anymore, can you drop a line please?
[18:04]<znmzjzn>IDzied: its answered on fedorafaq.org IIRC
[18:05]<ymnynm>I leave it, too many questions, i have too read all those docs before asking
[18:05]<ymnynm>Sorry if i have been annoying to anyone
[18:06]<kzddjzn>hi guys, im about to upgrade a system from debian 2.0 (hamm) to Fedora Core.. any advise?
[18:08]<sjuvxgzg_gggvfgd>backup and do a clean install
[18:09]<fnvvj>debian 2.0 ?
[18:09]<kzddjzn>yeah
[18:09]<kzddjzn>the computer hasn't been touched since 1998 :(
[18:10]<fnvvj>lol
[18:10]<drlyjsj_lx>Krymore: since it hasn't been used for a long time, and i guess there aren't any valuable data on it so backing up data won't be necessary...
[18:10]<vj2ywrrgj2n>Krymore: If you had no use for the stuff on it since then, you can probably skip the backup step
[18:11]<drlyjsj_lx>Krymore: and a fresh install would be best, format the hd and so
[18:11]<kzddjzn>it has been in use, i have no confirmation of wether it has important data or not. it might be in use for research by a professor or a lab
[18:11]<vj2ywrrgj2n>Krymore: cpu/ram of the thing?
[18:12]<kzddjzn>an AMD-K6 (no idea on cycles) and i think 13 GB of hard disk, no idea on RAM, probably 128
[18:12]<drlyjsj_lx>Krymore: then you should backup the files
[18:12]<drlyjsj_lx>Krymore: i think FC5 doesn't work under 128MB of ram
[18:13]<znmzjzn>it will stripped to high hell
[18:13]<znmzjzn>I would have thought anyway
[18:13]<vj2ywrrgj2n>Krymore: I don't think it's not going to be any fun to run fedora on it
[18:14]<kzddjzn>hehe
[18:15]<drlyjsj_lx>Krymore: i suggest that you add up some ram
[18:15]<drlyjsj_lx>to at least 256MB
[18:16]<snxx>hey people
[18:16]<fnvvj>or maby not use gnome since it eats so much resources
[18:17]<vj2ywrrgj2n>from released notes: Minimum RAM for graphical: 192MiB
[18:17]<drlyjsj_lx>not having a gui on fedora won't be fun either
[18:17]<snxx>how can i run a command for all the files with a directory and all its sub-directories? for example: "convert X.jpg X.png" were the X changes and is replaced by the name of the file minus the extension??
[18:17]<drlyjsj_lx>sehh: man convert
[18:18]<snxx>mafioso_ph, thats not helping at all, conver can use only a single file name at a time
[18:18]<vj2ywrrgj2n>sehh: man find
[18:18]<snxx>its not possible to do convert *.jpg *.png
[18:18]<snxx>find finds files, won't run a command multiple times based on the names of the files
[18:18]<znmzjzn>youll want some find magic
[18:18]<znmzjzn>yes it will
[18:19]<vj2ywrrgj2n>sehh: sure will -exec
[18:19]<kzddjzn>well that's for graphical, what about console?
[18:19]<dycnpjj>sure it will..
[18:19]<dycnpjj>-exec , yeah
[18:19]<kzddjzn>i don't think it will ever be used for graphical to be honest
[18:19]<snxx>hmm didn't know about that one, let me see
[18:19]<snxx>thanks people
[18:19]<kzddjzn>it's not being used as it right now, lol
[18:19]<vj2ywrrgj2n>Krymore: 128M
[18:19]<sjuvxgzg_gggvfgd>it will change the name but not nessaray change the format of the file
[18:21]<znmzjzn>basename will probably be needed too
[18:21]<znmzjzn>which is a bash builtin
[18:21]<kzddjzn>well, i will tell you guys late how did it go
[18:23]<snxx>well find looks ok
[18:23]<snxx>unfortunately it can't do this: convert file.jpg file.png
[18:23]<snxx>since the {} file reference is the entire file, along with the extension
[18:24]<snxx>this it ends up like: convert file.jpg file.jpg.png
[18:24]<snxx>i'd appriciate any suggestions :)
[18:25]<znmzjzn>sehh: basename can extract the name from the extenstion
[18:26]<snxx>how would i run find and execute basename at the same time as convert?
[18:26]<snxx>hmm weird
[18:26]<rggyax>hey guys, good day!
[18:26]<znmzjzn>using bash subsitution
[18:27]<rggyax>I have a Fedora specific question...
[18:27]<rggyax>The other day, I installed ubuntu 5.10 and noticed that apt-get offers a "upgrade-dist" option. It updated ubuntu from 5.10 to 6.0.6... So, I installed apt from the extras repo on fedora
[18:27]<sjuvxgzg_gggvfgd>shoot Renich
[18:27]<rggyax>should this apt-option work properly?
[18:27]<rggyax>hehehje
[18:28]<rggyax>hey Southern_Gentlem
[18:28]<sjuvxgzg_gggvfgd>nope apt-rpm is dead
[18:28]<rggyax>no! it is on extras, im sure!
[18:28]<sjuvxgzg_gggvfgd>it is not being maintained and all the repos are no longer supporting it
[18:29]<snxx>Redgore, could you please explain how bash substitution works pleasE?
[18:29]<rggyax>Southern_Gentlem: ooohhh!
[18:29]<vj2ywrrgj2n>sehh: ugly: find . -name '*.jpg' -exec bash -c 'echo {} `dirname {}`/`basename {} .jpg`.png' \;
[18:30]<snxx>tobi1canobe, wow
[18:30]<snxx>let me try that
[18:30]<snxx>btw, does that recurse into subdirs?
[18:30]<vj2ywrrgj2n>sehh: find does
[18:30]<znmzjzn>sehh: using tobi1canobe's command as a example output from anything in `` is passed to the main command
[18:31]<snxx>ah i see
[18:31]<rggyax>Southern_Gentlem: well, does offer this option?
[18:32]<snxx>tobi1canobe, well the above command does nothing :]
[18:32]<rggyax>Southern_Gentlem: ummm sorry... does yum offer a dist upgrade option through a plugin or something?
[18:32]<snxx>just returns back to shell prompt
[18:32]<znmzjzn>sehh: do a ls and notice stuff changed
[18:32]<vj2ywrrgj2n>sehh: it just echos the stuff. Don't want to convert my jpg
[18:32]<snxx>well, it didn't echo anything
[18:32]<znmzjzn>oh and remove theecho first :P

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