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[00:00]<svnnv-frlvjl>jakub: if i have the choice between the emerge bombing causing "bug reports" vs installing the app with a warning causing bug reports, i will go with the former, people tend to pay attention more when it bombs than when it completes
[00:01]<rrcu2>steev-laptop: you can just rename/kill the file
[00:01]<svnnv-frlvjl>jakub: mmm, yeah, but possibly a better option would be smarter config_protect
[00:01]<rggjgg>latexer: unfortunately, world would be better with more seemants ;)
[00:02]<fzvnwnz>genone: i'm not so sure about that...
[00:02]<fzvnwnz>i don't think it could handle more than 1.
[00:02]<rrcu2>steev-laptop: heh, sure :=)
[00:02]<svnnv-frlvjl>jakub: as you said 99% wouldn't touch that file - so remove the file if its not been touched
[00:02]<2zyw>genone: hear hear
[00:02]<jjsnjx>steev-laptop: That the efika is delayed
[00:03]<svnnv-frlvjl>JoseJX: ahh, well, these things happen
[00:03]<rrcu2>steev-laptop: heh, I suppose wschlich doesn't have that much time to wait for a solution :)
[00:04]<dznnnvyf>JoseJX, delayed by how much?
[00:04]<svnnv-frlvjl>jakub: sure he does, unless its a bump for security reasons :-P
[00:04]<dauddyrrs>seemant: who? me?
[00:04]<jjsnjx>DrEeevil: I don't know, but they're running into issues with the 5200b processor and DMA. I'm not sure if there's a definite date atm.
[00:05]<sggdrgv>mcummings: haha
[00:05]<zjqqrvq>!seen cybersystem
[00:05]<annvns>robbat2, I don't remember seeing cybersystem.
[00:05]<rf2v>cybersystem (i=cyber@freenode/staff/gentoo.cybersystem) was last seen quitting from #gentoo-security 59 days, 55 minutes ago stating ({"leaving"}).
[00:05]<dznnnvyf>JoseJX, ok, good to know - but it would be nice if genesi pushed more info like that ...
[00:05]<rrcu2>steev-laptop: ah... :P well, you'd be probably stuck w/ gnome-1.4 with this approach (which might be a positive thing for some people ;P)
[00:05]<fzvnwnz>ffs. ciaranm hasn't changed at all.
[00:05]<svnnv-frlvjl>jakub: *g*
[00:06]<dznnnvyf>latexer, what did you expect ?!?
[00:06]<svnnv-frlvjl>latexer: the more things change the more they stay the same
[00:06]<jjsnjx>DrEeevil: You can always ask pvdabeel. He sends us updates on the ppc@ alias every once in a while.
[00:06]<fzvnwnz>"If you don't have anything useful to contribute, 'shut up and go away."
[00:06]<fzvnwnz>awesome user relations there.
[00:06]<dznnnvyf>JoseJX, ok, but that's a crappy way of pushing updates
[00:06]<dznnnvyf>JoseJX, as much as I like the "free hardware" part etc, it's not "professional" to delay without warning
[00:08]<svnnv-frlvjl>DrEeevil: actually there was a warning previously - it said no shipment until after may 15th at least
[00:08]<jjsnjx>DrEeevil: I really can't do anything about it. :p It's not like I'm involved with Genesi at all and they have mentioned the problems in their forums a few times.
[00:09]<dznnnvyf>JoseJX, aye, I'm happy that I get updates :-)
[00:09]<dznnnvyf>steev-laptop, oh? must have ignored that one
[00:09]<svnnv-frlvjl>DrEeevil: it was a post to the forums
[00:09]<dznnnvyf>I'm not complaining, these fine people have offered me some free hardware
[00:09]<dznnnvyf>so I accept any unilateral changes in the agreement :-)
[00:09]<svnnv-frlvjl>DrEeevil: likewise :)
[00:14]<fvmr2nnf>DrEeevil: I just sent a status update to ppc@g.o :-)
[00:15]<dznnnvyf>pvdabeel, I don't have a PPC yet ... ;-)
[00:15]<fvmr2nnf>DrEeevil: basically we have the board up and running, drivers are ready. However under high load (ATA, network, sound) seem to have some issues
[00:16]<fvmr2nnf>DrEeevil: the freescale reference board has the same issue so freescale is looking into this
[00:16]<dznnnvyf>ah ok
[00:16]<dznnnvyf>thx
[00:16]<fvmr2nnf>DrEeevil: once we have all that worked out and are sure about the quality we will start shipping the boards
[00:16]<dznnnvyf>excellent
[00:17]<fvmr2nnf>DrEeevil: we're not too happy with the delays ourselves, but such is life I guess
[00:17]<dznnnvyf>yes
[00:17]<dznnnvyf>I'm mildly unhappy with the information policy
[00:18]<fvmr2nnf>DrEeevil: driver-wise this board will be the first ppc board which has a DRM/DRI 2d/3d driver provided by upstream
[00:18]<fvmr2nnf>DrEeevil: I know, I basically relay all info I get to ppc@g.o
[00:19]<dznnnvyf>pvdabeel, might be better to push out weekly/monthly status updates to all involved?
[00:19]<fvmr2nnf>DrEeevil: that's probably a good idea
[00:19]<lalxnd>i go to sleep. night.
[00:19]<fvmr2nnf>DrEeevil: can you write me a quick email asking for that? I'll forward it
[00:20]<dznnnvyf>pvdabeel, 'k
[00:20]<fvmr2nnf>thnxs
[00:20]<fvmr2nnf>please don't hesitate sending me email, I don't bite :-)
[00:21]<dznnnvyf>I'm just a bit lazy and tend to forget stuff ;-)
[00:21]<cfjnzy>haven't seen you around for some time :)
[00:22]<zjqqrvq>jokey, I tested 2.3.23 on ~ppc and it passes all of the builtin tests
[00:22]<ajcnd>cool thx :)
[00:25]<fvmr2nnf>kloeri: :-)
[00:46]<dznnnvyf>and now for something completely different: a new thread on the -dev ML!
[00:49]<zgzzaxd>solar, your looking for me
[01:03]<dznnnvyf>beeeeeeeer
[01:03]<wsaxfyax>yes
[01:03]<wsaxfyax>"Bruch Zwickel" beer :)
[01:04]<dznnnvyf>Grimbergen Optimo Bruno here :-)
[01:04]<wsaxfyax>http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/bruch-zwickel/42840/4694/
[01:05]<wsaxfyax>that sounds nordic
[01:05]<wsaxfyax>http://www.ratebeer.com/Beer/grimbergen-optimo-bruno/6000/
[01:05]<wsaxfyax>oh, belgian
[01:05]<wsaxfyax>looks good
[01:05]<dznnnvyf>10%alc
[01:05]<-- rjrvcxrrr xrs fuy>http://www.jpg.com")
[01:06]<wsaxfyax>wow
[01:06]<dznnnvyf>heavy, but lovely
[01:06]<wsaxfyax>almost like gulden draak
[01:06]<wsaxfyax>with 12% :)
[01:06]<wsaxfyax>I love that one
[01:06]<dznnnvyf>heh
[01:06]<dznnnvyf>totally different taste though
[01:06]<wsaxfyax>wim vandeputte brought lots of bottles to the chaos communication camp in 2003
[01:06]<wsaxfyax>you know wim?
[01:06]<dznnnvyf>yes
[01:06]<dznnnvyf>cool guy
[01:06]<wsaxfyax>hehe :)
[01:06]<dznnnvyf>met him at fosdem, lwe and schloss kransberg
[01:07]<wsaxfyax>it's always fun being with him
[01:07]<wsaxfyax>oh
[01:07]<dznnnvyf>aye
[01:07]<wsaxfyax>then we met!
[01:07]<wsaxfyax>at kransberg!
[01:07]<dznnnvyf>yes we did
[01:07]<dznnnvyf>you volvo-driving geek

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