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[00:21]<rpjzdrg>alright, wheres a portage monkey?
[00:21]<nmnmyaj>yo
[00:21]<mzzzjgxnzzv>genstef: ack (ref gpg-agent)
[00:22]<rpjzdrg>zmedico: speaking of the devil..http://pastebin.com/743651 << am i missing something here?
[00:22]<rpjzdrg>zmedico: i had those two packages keyworded ~x86 if that makes a difference
[00:23]<rpjzdrg>s/had/have
[00:24]<nmnmyaj>jforman: what version of portage is that?
[00:24]<rpjzdrg>.54-r2
[00:25]<rpjzdrg>2.0.54-r2 that is
[00:27]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, uh... instead in 2.1_rc3 i have a strange problem with -a :P
[00:28]<rpjzdrg>zmedico: antarus: any idea?
[00:28]<nmnmyaj>Flame_Away: yeah I hknow
[00:28]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, is that intended or an error? :)
[00:28]<nmnmyaj>Flame_Away: we're reverting
[00:28]<nmnmyaj>Flame_Away: it was intended
[00:28]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, argh somebody had such an idea? crazy ... :P
[00:28]<nmnmyaj>hehe
[00:29]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, tell me how to revert, pleeeeease
[00:29]<ffrdn_rwrd>i _hate_ that thing...
[00:29]<nmnmyaj>Flame_Away: revert the patch on bug 134466
[00:29]<annvns>zmedico: http://bugs.gentoo.org/134466 min, P2, All, gentoo@altkai.ml1.net->dev-portage@gentoo.org, REOPENED, pending, portage accepts enter as yes at yes/no prompts
[00:31]<zgvzzus>jforman: drop the --newuse and try the two packages again in pretend verbose mode
[00:32]<nmnmyaj>that looks like a bug. I wonder what 2.1 would do...
[00:32]<drvvnlyu>Kugelfang: ping
[00:32]<rpjzdrg>zmedico: antarus: same result. calculating dependencies....done
[00:33]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, thanki sai... you made me go crazy :P
[00:34]<nmnmyaj>haha, well the bug whining for this has been driving me crazy ;)
[00:34]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, for a while i was thinking if it was the terminal being stupid
[00:35]<svnnv-frlvjl>zmedico: btw, that error about the file beign missing while downloading it is still around
[00:35]<nmnmyaj>Sorry, response '' not understood. [Yes/No]
[00:35]<rpjzdrg>antarus: any idea on my issue?
[00:35]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, the same happens if you insert a control character, you know...
[00:36]<nmnmyaj>steev-laptop: yeah, I'm doing a revbump today
[00:37]<nmnmyaj>Flame_Away: eh? why would you insert a control character?
[00:37]<zgvzzus>jforman: all I can say is give me the -d output :)
[00:37]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, while you're here, can i ask you another thing?
[00:37]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, it happened to me to insert one by error
[00:38]<zgvzzus>emerge -uDv pkg2 pkg1 should work fine, although -u does some pruning..at least the mad plugins have an upgrade..
[00:38]<rpjzdrg>antarus: email ?
[00:38]<zgvzzus>jforman: sure
[00:38]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, if i have FEATURES=keepwork (because i need the makefile generated).. and i run the same emerge twice in a row (because i analyzed the makefile and changed the eclass)... i get the package not built at all...
[00:39]<rpjzdrg>antarus: on its way
[00:39]<zgvzzus>ty
[00:40]<nmnmyaj>Flame_Away: usually make reuses everything when you keepwork
[00:40]<ffrdn_rwrd>it's not make...
[00:40]<nmnmyaj>or whatever build system :)
[00:40]<ffrdn_rwrd>it's portage
[00:41]<ffrdn_rwrd>portage skips all steps
[00:41]<nmnmyaj>Flame_Away: would you like to file a bug? :)
[00:42]<rpjzdrg>antarus: let me know if you find anything, i'm around ;)
[00:42]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, i take it's not intended? :P
[00:42]<rrcu2>Flame_Away: you broke portage again, bad boy! :P
[00:42]<ffrdn_rwrd>[have to fix a xine bug before]
[00:42]<nmnmyaj>Flame_Away: probably not
[00:43]<nmnmyaj>Flame_Away: portage skips lots of stuff with keepwork. that's supposed to be a feature, but maybe it's a bug too..
[00:43]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, it probably depends on how you consider it
[00:44]<ffrdn_rwrd>i usually consider keepwork a "leave the stuff there so i can debug it" rather than "reuse the same crap over and over" :P
[00:44]<fysr>why do i always get the packages that don't work as advertised?
[00:44]<svnnv-frlvjl>lisa: because you got skillz
[00:44]<nmnmyaj>Flame_Away: you can remove all the hidden files in $WORKDIR
[00:45]<ffrdn_rwrd>zmedico, not that automatic tho ;)
[00:46]<zgvzzus>jforman: what the hell..
[00:47]<zgvzzus>jforman: well for gst-plugins, there is an up-down cycle, and apparently it's not detected without the world target
[00:47]<zgvzzus>jforman: ie -> something in world is requiring a lower version?
[00:48]<zgvzzus>jforman: still looking at the second pkg..
[00:49]<rpjzdrg>zmedico: antarus: i have it keywordard in package.keywords if that makes a difference
[00:49]<rpjzdrg>http://pastebin.com/743689 << emerge -uDvp --newuse world output
[00:50]<nmnmyaj>jforman: the deps for gst-plugins have always been prone to resolver cycles as long as I can remember
[00:50]<rpjzdrg>nod
[00:50]<rpjzdrg>!meta gst-plugins
[00:50]<annvns>jforman: Package: media-libs/gst-plugins Herd: gstreamer, gnome Maintainer: gstreamer, gnome
[00:50]<rpjzdrg>!herd gstreamer
[00:50]<annvns>jforman: (gstreamer) compnerd, foser, hanno, zaheerm
[00:50]<rpjzdrg>die !! ^^
[00:51]<zgvzzus>jforman: it doesn't matter the keywording.
[00:51]<rpjzdrg>nod
[00:52]<rpjzdrg>i'm all ears, if heads need to be knocked
[00:53]<zgvzzus>jforman: it's probably just a resolver "bug/feature"
[00:53]<zgvzzus>if you will
[00:53]<rrcu2>jforman: well, tough job; have a look at the eclasses
[00:53]<rrcu2>it's way better now than it used to be though
[00:54]<nmnmyaj>generally, the resolver cycles indicate a broken depgraph, but the silly resolver goes into cycles instead...
[00:57]<przzyrr2>zmedico: *cough* up/downs aren't broken depgraphs....
[00:58]<nmnmyaj>I've seen cases where they were
[01:00]<przzyrr2>zmedico: fex?
[01:00]<rrcu2>ferringb: gstreamer stuff has retarded =${PV} deps... there's an ugly hack in the eclasses to avoid circular deps there, but pretty likely not a catchall one
[01:01]<nmnmyaj>ferringb: when you have one installed package pulling the version up, and another installed package pulling it down again
[01:01]<nmnmyaj>can't be satisfied
[01:02]<przzyrr2>if it's exclusive ranges, yep
[01:03]<rrcu2>iirc the gst up/down cycle has been tracked down to a package depending on lower version of itself b/c portage doesn't explode w/ the broken depgraph
[01:08]<zgvzzus>jforman: the mad plugins make no sense ;P
[01:08]<zgvzzus>it says the canidate ebuild is 0.10.3...
[01:08]<zgvzzus>but your -p output says 8.12..?
[01:08]<zgvzzus>heh
[01:09]<fysr>robbat2: hah. your box isn't supported for mkCDrec
[01:12]<fysr>!meta iconf
[01:13]<fysr>!meta iconv
[01:13]<annvns>lisa: 'iconf' does not exist

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