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[18:49]<rrvrrrrfj>+programs install with kde support, but i dont see anything in kde
[18:49]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+FreshPrince: becuase it's not considered stable enough for the stable branch yet
[18:49]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: but if I go start it says it's already started
[18:49]<rrllm_rmg>+If I were not using gentoo what would be the generic equivalent to 'rc-status'?
[18:49]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: ok, do # /etc/init.d/acpid zap
[18:49]<fzgsxpzygag>+dystopianray: what should i do?.. install the 3.4 one or 3.5 ?
[18:49]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: then start it again
[18:49]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+FreshPrince: whichever one you want to use
[18:50]<mzsvnzopdyszsvnz>+cappy_cdn: e.g.: rc.d in debian
[18:50]<grrf>-thanks seems to have worked now, lets see if it'll let me log it
[18:50]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: no change
[18:50]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: you started it again?
[18:50]<asvpyfjv>-I did zap and then start
[18:51]<rrvrrrrfj>+noone has any ideas?
[18:51]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: and it's still not running?
[18:51]<rrllm_rmg>+MasterOfDisaster: k thx
[18:51]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: correct
[18:51]<fzgsxpzygag>+dystopianray: when i wanna install the testing one.. what should i do?..
[18:51]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+jevangelo: you usually have to logout and login again for things to appear in the kde menus
[18:51]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: is a reboot required?
[18:51]<dtgjzd>+*s8gh* installing gentoo for the 3rd time to make changes to the way i previously installed it by learning from my mistakes lol
[18:51]<dtgjzd>+funny, it worked perfectly the first time i installed it
[18:51]<grrf>-ok thanks guys the password is changed and has let me in now, thanks
[18:51]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: shouldn't be, you do have acpi support in your kernel, right?
[18:51]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: correct
[18:51]<xdfan>+DTGorm: fools luck
[18:51]<dtgjzd>+then i started screwing around with it and boom, i borked somehting lol
[18:51]<sgrdfn>+ty chaosite_ that works for me
[18:51]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: brb, parents calling me for food.
[18:52]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: check the logs to see if there is an error message
[18:52]<dtgjzd>+its when i started doing different things, that it started acting weird
[18:52]<dtgjzd>+following the handbook to the T works perfectly
[18:52]<dtgjzd>+heh, so much for me experimenting
[18:52]<dtgjzd>+lol
[18:52]<fzgsxpzygag>+dystopianray: ? :(
[18:53]<rrvrrrrfj>+i've tried loggin in and out, and still nothing....
[18:53]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+FreshPrince: you'll have to unmask all the ebuilds
[18:53]<tjddw>-Would X take advantage of a SLI Voodoo2 setup?
[18:53]<jrddygy>-im trying to compile gentoo on my Athlon64 X2 system, which is the correct -march setting?
[18:53]<gyv_jgn_vxznn>-sorry,can any1 pls tell me what chanel to ask about IP routing to VPN?
[18:53]<fzgsxpzygag>+dystopianrayllll? .. oh.. :/
[18:53]<fzgsxpzygag>+oder muss ich die packete alle unmasken..
[18:53]<fzgsxpzygag>+denke schon hmhm
[18:54]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+FreshPrince: # ls /usr/portage/kde-base/ | awk '{print "kde-base/"$1}' >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
[18:54]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+FreshPrince: that should do it
[18:54]<fzgsxpzygag>+ok
[18:54]<fzgsxpzygag>+thx
[18:55]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+FreshPrince: there will probaly be a few other odd things to unmask, like poppler maybe, depends what parts of kde you use
[18:55]<dzsfjgd>-cstPilot: where in menuconfig do I find that entry for my nvidia ethernet controller?
[18:55]<fzgsxpzygag>+hm
[18:55]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+DrSlony: it's in the 10/100 ethernet section, if you want forcedeth
[18:55]<fzgsxpzygag>+dystopianray: oh damn.. thats complicated :(
[18:56]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+FreshPrince: ?
[18:56]<dzsfjgd>-thank you
[18:56]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+DrSlony: CONFIG_FORCEDETH
[18:57]<fzgsxpzygag>+dystopianray: i think i install the stable one ^^
[18:57]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+FreshPrince: you already have kde installed?
[18:57]<dtgjzd>+whats the difference betweeen the Universal install cd and the Package CD???
[18:58]<dtgjzd>+and the live cd
[18:58]<xrggnsm_>-DTGorm: package cd has packages only, the live cd has the grafical installer in addition to the install cd, afaik.
[18:58]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+DTGorm: minimal cd = ~70MB of essentials just to get you booting and doing basic tasks, universal = minimal + all stage files
[18:59]<dtgjzd>+ok, thanks
[18:59]<fzgsxpzygag>+dystopianray: no not
[19:00]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+FreshPrince: ok, well if it's emering kde 3.4.3 then just cancel it
[19:00]<dzsfjgd>-Should I enable DRM in "device drivers > character devices" if I want to install my ATI Radeon drivers?
[19:00]<svnrfvx>-how does init.d scrips work when writing an ebuild, is it copied over from the file location after exatracting the compressed source?
[19:00]<sggcdjcr>+So I went crazy this morning and switched from KDE to Fluxbox: now I'm totally confused about how to view pictures, a gui-based file browser, and how to use other currently-emerged programs in fluxbox
[19:01]<sdzzajw>+Senkyoka, fluxbox is just a WM, which apps you use is your choice
[19:01]<fzgsxpzygag>+dystopianray: why cancel?
[19:01]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+FreshPrince: you said it was emering the wrong thing?
[19:02]<sggcdjcr>+smarcow: yeaaahhh... about that...
[19:02]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+Senkyoka: kde and fluxbox are different things
[19:02]<lnvvndr>+hi
[19:02]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+Senkyoka: you can use fluxbox as your kde window manager
[19:02]<sggcdjcr>+dystopianray: how so?
[19:02]<lnvvndr>+Where does KDE store the .dekstop files that are in the menu?
[19:02]<fzgsxpzygag>+dystopianray: nono .. i said i emerge now the stable one.. just "emerge -av kde" =)
[19:03]<lnvvndr>+dystopianray: fluxbox and kde aren't window managers
[19:03]<lnvvndr>+dystopianray: they're desktop environments
[19:03]<lnvvndr>+dystopianray: kdm is a window manager
[19:03]<sggcdjcr>+petteyg: I thought Xorg or XFree were window managers heh
[19:04]<lnvvndr>+dystopianray & Senkyoka : you can use fluxbox with kdm if you want to... and kde apps will work in fluxbox too, if that's what you're asking
[19:04]<v1vv0z>+!!! /root/ebuilds does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure]
[19:04]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+petteyg: fluxbox is a window manager
[19:04]<v1vv0z>+how do i give it a valid portdir structure?
[19:04]<lnvvndr>+dystopianray: no, it's not
[19:04]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+petteyg: I never said kde was a window manager
[19:05]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+petteyg: yes, it is
[19:05]<kueae>+indeed
[19:05]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+petteyg: kwin is the kde window manager, kdm is the kde login manager
[19:05]<sdzzajw>+t35t0r, ls /usr/portage, thats a portdir structure
[19:05]<lnvvndr>+okay whatever
[19:05]<v1vv0z>+smarcow, what directories do i need?
[19:05]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+FreshPrince: do emerge -av kde-meta, you probably don't want the monolithic ebuilds
[19:06]<v1vv0z>+smarcow, i don't need everything that is there it's only looking for certain directories which ones?>
[19:06]<kueae>+does it normally take a long time to update portage cahce?
[19:06]<sdzzajw>+t35t0r, just put your ebuild into a dir like app-misc or whatever
[19:06]<kueae>+cache*

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