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[21:41]<wucrvu>soudns pretty old
[21:41]<gdlb>_AxS_, would emerge automake autoconf not just update them?
[21:42]<sddfndg>How to resume a ctrl+z process?
[21:42]<czsvnz>fg
[21:42]<caayza>SmileyG: fg
[21:42]<_aws_>GmLB, no, because mutliple versions are installed, and you only need to upate the older (v4) version
[21:42]<sddfndg>ty
[21:42]<_aws_>GmLB, whereas just running emerge blah without the version will only re-emerge the highest version
[21:42]<gdlb>_AxS_, Ahh, so I do an emerge --search?
[21:42]<awnsjdn-jq000>damnit - theyre taking a day off on stern today
[21:43]<awnsjdn-jq000>Robin's the only one who served in the military too
[21:43]<sxyzrcrwrsugr>hi
[21:43]<gdlb>_AxS_, you'll have to forgive me, i'm a longtime linux user, but new to gentoos tools
[21:43]<wucrvu>GmLB: not sure how to list all versions you have installed, but I always find it easy to emerge -C. Uninstalling always shows first all versions (slots) you have installed =)
[21:43]<sxyzrcrwrsugr>When I browse through bash's history (past commands), is there a way to move the cursor to the beginning of a command quickly?
[21:44]<wucrvu>GmLB: be ready to press ctrl+C though :P
[21:44]<fugc>ctrl+a
[21:44]<caayza>xukatu: I hope you're not suggesting he uninstall autoconf
[21:44]<_aws_>GmLB, well first, try this: 'emerge =sys-devel/m4-1.4.4'
[21:44]<caayza>oh
[21:44]<sxyzrcrwrsugr>as in when I have a large emerge and would like to go back and put 'screen' on the front, is there a key combo I can press to get the cursor at the front?
[21:44]<caayza>xukatu: emerge -Cp might be better
[21:44]<wucrvu>kojiro: no, just pressing ctrl+c before =)
[21:44]<lord-vader>Caster: what do you get when you do echo$CLASSPATH
[21:44]<wucrvu>kojiro: ah, yup
[21:44]<gdlb>_AxS_, trying.
[21:44]<twnd_>'bash: echo.: command not found', I should think.
[21:45]<wucrvu>kojiro: I think there should be a better way to find out all installed slots, but somehow I'm unable to find the damn option
[21:45]<gdlb>_AxS_, I ran that, it worked, but emerge mythvideo is still failing
[21:45]<_aws_>GmLB, if that doesn't fix your problem, then 'emerge =sys-devel/automake-1.4_p6'
[21:45]<caayza>xukatu: emerge -s should show it
[21:45]<caayza>xukatu: also 'equery l autoconf'
[21:45]<gdlb>_AxS_, How did you look up what package to emerge? (So I do'nt have to come back asking again)
[21:45]<czsvnz>LORD-VADER: .
[21:45]<wucrvu>kojiro: it doesn't... it just shows newest slot (emerge -s)
[21:46]<wucrvu>* sys-devel/automake
[21:46]<wucrvu> Latest version available: 1.9.6-r1
[21:46]<wucrvu> Latest version installed: 1.9.6-r1
[21:46]<wucrvu>when I have 1.4->1.9.x installed
[21:46]<caayza>xukatu: equery l, then
[21:46]<_aws_>GmLB, 'cd /usr/portage/', ..then looked at the ebuild files themselves
[21:46]<lord-vader>aight
[21:46]<gdlb>_AxS_, ah. Okay so i did that and mythvideo is still failing :(
[21:47]<_aws_>xukatu, yes, emerge --search is a bitlimited, it only shows your latest version..
[21:47]<lord-vader>thanks, will post this in the forums...see what other guys gotta say this
[21:47]<sxyzrcrwrsugr>hmm...
[21:47]<caayza>xukatu: also, in the case of important portage packages like autoconf and automake, emerge --info
[21:47]<_aws_>GmLB, same error? (with aclocal complaining about m4)?
[21:47]<czsvnz>eix > emerge -s
[21:47]<sxyzrcrwrsugr>unless it doesn't already :)
[21:47]<gdlb>_AxS_, yes
[21:47]<sxyzrcrwrsugr>*does
[21:47]<caayza>Shirakawasuna: no need
[21:47]<wucrvu>kojiro: yes, equery list foo seems to do it
[21:47]<caayza>Shirakawasuna: gcc is slotted, and your system won't move to new versions of gcc automatically
[21:47]<_aws_>GmLB, do a search on bugs.gentoo.org and see if anyone's mentioned the same problem... ~x86 stuff is testing, so it doesn't always work...
[21:47]<czsvnz>it doesnt gcc-config new version automagically, no?
[21:48]<caayza>Caster: er... right, it doesn't
[21:48]<sxyzrcrwrsugr>kojiro: yep, but it would still be a good idea to put at least a little asterisk by your -DuaNv world emerge if gcc is in there, too
[21:48]<caayza>Shirakawasuna: nah, these aren't the droids you're looking for
[21:48]<wucrvu>Shirakawasuna: or better, it should rm -rf and begin bootstrapping gentoo again ;)
[21:48]<caayza>Shirakawasuna: let the developers go about their business
[21:48]<caayza>move along, move along
[21:49]<gdlb>_AxS_, what do you suppose "eaclocal: 'm4' does not exist" means?
[21:49]<sxyzrcrwrsugr>:)
[21:49]<gdlb>_AxS_, and a search turned up no good results
[21:49]<czsvnz>kojiro: oh it does, at least when it's the same slot
[21:49]<caayza>Caster: well of course
[21:50]<czsvnz>but what if you have two slots and it updates the other slot? :)
[21:50]<caayza>Caster: actually, specifically no, gcc-config has nothing to do with a gcc binary getting overwritten
[21:50]<_aws_>GmLB, it means aclocal can't find m4
[21:50]<gdlb>_AxS_, what is aclocal and what provides m4??
[21:50]<caayza>Caster: but in general, of course that would only happen for minor revisions of gcc, and it shouldn't affect functionality
[21:50]<_aws_>GmLB, now _why_ it can't find it is a good question.. as you obviously have it
[21:50]<wucrvu>GmLB: install sys-devel/m4-1.4.4 (/usr/bin/m4
[21:50]<_aws_>GmLB, aclocal is part of automake, and m4 is that
[21:50]<wucrvu>you seem to be missing it
[21:50]<czsvnz>i upgraded gcc 3.4.5 to 3.4.6 and got gcc-config in /var/log/messages
[21:50]<_aws_>xukatu, he just re-emerged it
[21:51]<_aws_>Caster, that's a minor upgrade -- its not slotted iirc
[21:51]<_aws_>Caster, if you went from say, 3.3 to 3.4, it wouldn't change your gcc-config settings
[21:51]<wucrvu>uhm, strange, m4 is meant to be the package providing it, according to equery belongs
[21:52]<gdlb>xukatu, did that, still didn't fix the issue
[21:52]<_aws_>xukatu, im sure its on his system, aclocal or 'eaclocal' just isn't finding it right...
[21:52]<gdlb>_AxS_, I see m4 in /usr/bin...
[21:52]<wucrvu>GmLB: "which m4" doesn't show /usr/bin/m4?
[21:52]<_aws_>GmLB, this is 'mythvideo' ?
[21:52]<gdlb>xukatu, it does.
[21:52]<gdlb>_AxS_, yes
[21:52]<wucrvu>uhmpf
[21:53]<drdrg>thanks Caster ! :)
[21:53]<gdlb>_AxS_, and the error files (/var/tmp/portage/libdts-0.0.2-r3/temp/aclocal-27231.out) reads: "aclocal: couldn't open directory `m4': No such file or directory"
[21:53]<drdrg>let me log out
[21:53]<wucrvu>_AxS_: "could not open _directory_"?
[21:53]<wucrvu>that sounds suspicious
[21:53]<gdlb>_AxS_, directory m4? Maybe it needs a source?
[21:53]<gdlb>_AxS_, could it be looking for an m4 include directory or something? Is there an m4 dev package?
[21:53]<_aws_>libdts? ...is there a use flag that might turn off that?
[21:54]<gjvyan_zjjv>how is gentoo different from automated- LFS
[21:54]<_aws_>GmLB, ok i'm gonna search for libdts bugs

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