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[05:21]<mrxmjum>Can I use KDM for FVWM?
[05:21]<wmmzrufyw>What's the best partition scheme for a 60gb drive on a notebook?
[05:21]<znysyj>aeruz: try 'emerge libtool' again
[05:22]<znysyj>hydraulix: that all depends
[05:22]<caayza>hydraulix: depends on how you plan to use the notebook
[05:22]<wmmzrufyw>I know it's driving my crazy.
[05:22]<wmmzrufyw>haah
[05:22]<znysyj>hydraulix: personally I'd just do one huge / (root) partition, a spaceous swap partition, and that's it
[05:22]<wmmzrufyw>I was thinking of doing that.
[05:22]<mrxmjum>reisio: that's what I did on my notebook
[05:22]<eneue>reisio, tried to do that but nothing was done
[05:22]<wmmzrufyw>yeah
[05:22]<fysxyy>and and if i'm here anyway. i'm pretty new to gentoo. can anybody tell me how to edit user group? i'd like to add my user to the portage group. or is that bad?
[05:22]<eneue>should I add a USE option?
[05:22]<lzzcnz`>reisio: you do not need a boot partition?
[05:22]<znysyj>aeruz: nothing was done = error still there?
[05:22]<znysyj>parker`: nope
[05:23]<wmmzrufyw>That sounds good to me.
[05:23]<wmmzrufyw>I'll go with that.
[05:23]<lzzcnz`>reisio: when is a boot partition useful?
[05:23]<wmmzrufyw>Thanks.
[05:23]<fdg2jdsfdac>Is there a log where we can read init messages?
[05:23]<mrxmjum>hydraulix: what FS to use? :P
[05:23]<znysyj>parker`: really old disks that must have the kernel in the first X number of cylinders
[05:23]<znysyj>parker`: and it can help with security
[05:23]<fdg2jdsfdac>I get an error after dmesg, but before syslog.
[05:23]<fysxyy>aeruz: emerge -avp media-libs/jpeg will tell you what SUE flags you'll need
[05:23]<wmmzrufyw>Mahmoud I have Reiser4 on my server. But this is my personal system so I'm keeping it ext3.
[05:23]<lzzcnz`>oh, I didn't know that... I've been making boot partitions all this time...
[05:23]<eneue>no, I meant emerge libtool did nothing since it was already installed
[05:23]<znysyj>parker`: and just organization, if you do a lot of partitions for one system
[05:23]<fysxyy>i mean USE flags
[05:24]<mrxmjum>hydraulix: I have reiserfs on my laptop..
[05:24]<znysyj>aeruz: did nothing? did it re-emerge? what command did you use?
[05:24]<wmmzrufyw>Mahmoud I heard that Reiser3 frags a lot.
[05:24]<znysyj>reiser3 does a lot a lot :/
[05:24]<mrxmjum>hydraulix: I see
[05:24]<mrxmjum>how to check my disk frags now?
[05:24]<znysyj>s/spaceous/spacious
[05:24]<wmmzrufyw>Mahmoud I ran Reiser3 for a while and didn't like it.
[05:24]<eneue>how can I reemerge??
[05:25]<wmmzrufyw>Reiser4 is sweet.
[05:25]<znysyj>Mahmoud: not much point unless your system is rather long-lived
[05:25]<mrxmjum>hydraulix: how to check my reiser version?
[05:25]<eneue>I just did emerge libtool
[05:25]<znysyj>aeruz: that's right
[05:25]<znysyj>aeruz: hrmmm
[05:25]<znysyj>aeruz: and you tried 'emerge jpeg' after that?
[05:25]<mrxmjum>reisio: does reiserfs create frags when there are free spaces left?
[05:25]<eneue>reisio: yes, same error
[05:25]<wmmzrufyw>Mahmoud You should check the output of dmesg.
[05:25]<wmmzrufyw>It should say it there.
[05:26]<znysyj>Mahmoud: I don't know specifics, only that reiserfs(es) are suboptimal :p
[05:26]<rrgvdrg>fishii: use gpasswd to manipulate the group file
[05:26]<wmmzrufyw>I saw a thread on speeding up ext3.
[05:26]<wmmzrufyw>So I think I'm going to stick with that.
[05:26]<mrxmjum>hydraulix: i searched for 'frag' in dmesg and nothing found
[05:26]<wmmzrufyw>Mahmoud search for your version.
[05:27]<wmmzrufyw>dmesg | grep reiser
[05:27]<fysxyy>gantman: -a to add a user?
[05:27]<mrxmjum>in gentoo.org they say reiserfs runs 10x times faster thant ext3 for small files
[05:27]<rrgvdrg>fishii, yes
[05:27]<vzy2ugrf>small as in less then 100<
[05:27]<fysxyy>k, thanks
[05:27]<vzy2ugrf>most files are bigger then that nowadays
[05:28]<eneue>reisio: I tried again and still the same error
[05:28]<mrxmjum>hydraulix: it says format 3.6
[05:28]<wmmzrufyw>Mahmoud you might want to upgrade to reiser4.
[05:28]<mrxmjum>tribunal: 6kilo bytes if i recall it currectly
[05:28]<qnfyrfqqq>reiserfs?
[05:28]<mrxmjum>hydraulix: it's new.. i wonder why they didn't use the latest one.. probably not stable yet?
[05:28]<vzy2ugrf>Mahmoud: then do ext2
[05:28]<vzy2ugrf>err
[05:28]<vzy2ugrf>soryr
[05:28]<vzy2ugrf>ext3
[05:28]<wmmzrufyw>Mahmoud no it's not "stable" yet.
[05:29]<vzy2ugrf>if you use a big enough journal , it's fast
[05:29]<mrxmjum>any command to look for fragments?
[05:29]<wmmzrufyw>Mahmoud I forget what I used to find the fragmentation.
[05:29]<wmmzrufyw>It's been a while.
[05:30]<edlld__>hi.. maybe some1 can help me... which modules from kernel i should enable to run the iptables utility
[05:30]<rrgvdrg>fishii, you will have logout/login to see the change
[05:30]<wmmzrufyw>zippy__ modprobe ip_tables
[05:31]<krlxnas>Is there anyway to bind a command to a key? I am looking to put Scrot on Print Screen.
[05:31]<edlld__>hydraulix, i mean.. in the config file (make menuconfig)
[05:32]<wmmzrufyw>zippy__ Here's a guide that shows the path.
[05:32]<wmmzrufyw>http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Iptables_for_newbies
[05:32]<wmmzrufyw>That's all I followed.
[05:32]<edlld__>hydraulix, oh, really thx
[05:32]<wmmzrufyw>np
[05:33]<krlxnas>Is there anyway to bind a command to a key? I am looking to put Scrot on Print Screen.
[05:33]<mrxmjum>i liked fvwm =]
[05:33]<mrxmjum>the default fvwm.. just a window manager.. nothing extra
[05:34]<2frrarrn>Kaphecs: asking a daft question twice doesn't make it any less daft...you should mention what you're trying to bind a key in.
[05:34]<wmmzrufyw>Kaphecs you can use showkey to get the number of print screen and map it.
[05:34]<znysyj>Kaphecs: xbindkeys
[05:34]<znysyj>(for X)
[05:35]<krlxnas>reisio: How's about spoonfeeding it to me for a couple of hours PELASPELSASE!!!!!!
[05:35]<krlxnas>I'm kidding, thanks
[05:36]<fysxyy>hi folks, me again. another question: can i uninstall programs i manually installed (not emerging) simply by deleting its folder?

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