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[00:00]<ducfzzn>is there a way to start applications fron the console in a way that they appear on other user's xsession?
[00:00]<fdnfmd>DISPLAY="whatever" application , assuming that persons session is set to allow you (man xhost)
[00:00]<ducfzzn>I mean... I have X & KDE running on user duclare and I have ssh session as root..
[00:01]<ducfzzn>so I'd run something as root and have it appear on duclare's display..
[00:01]<svuup>why not ssh as normal user, then su root, it will copy the xauth info
[00:02]<svuup>hmm, why is gnome pulling in xmms?
[00:02]<svuup>oh, xmms useflag on flac
[00:03]<znznzm>dz: here is the exact error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/JlMFD699.html .... If anyone can help with this, i followed the install guide and its partition table, so I dont know whats wron
[00:04]<ducfzzn>stuuf: actually I did ssh as a normal user. I'm not letting SSHing directly as root..
[00:04]<svuup>can you mount hda3 from a livecd?
[00:04]<znznzm>stuuf: yes
[00:04]<znznzm>im using knoppix
[00:04]<znznzm>and it workse
[00:04]<zunnpnpzd>what's a good calculator program?
[00:04]<svuup>guzzlefry: qalculate
[00:04]<svuup>the queer calculator!
[00:04]<gnvazusxnzoo>xcalc
[00:04]<dzrajgw>DuClare, if you're root, you can typically run: export XAUTHORITY=~<username>/.Xauthority and then run programs
[00:05]<svuup>dc if you're a minimalist
[00:05]<dzrajgw>where <username> is the user who started the X session
[00:05]<dzrajgw>bc
[00:05]<dzrajgw>bc > *
[00:05]<znznzm>here is my grub.conf http://rafb.net/paste/results/4taHt687.html
[00:05]<gnvazusxnzoo>hmm
[00:05]<gnvazusxnzoo>electricsheep won't compile, so much for that -_-
[00:06]<ducfzzn>Draconx: if I SSH'ed as duclare and then su 'ed to root, do I need this auth stuff?
[00:06]<czespj>Does anyone know if you need to install anything to get Ctrl+Z to work properly? I know it's supposed to suspend the process you are viewing, but for me it's doing nothing at all.
[00:06]<fdnfmd>it's a standard feature of bash, not sure about other shells
[00:06]<gnvazusxnzoo>CrEsPo, some programs ignore it
[00:07]<dzrajgw>DuClare, if you want to transfer X credentials, use "sux" instead of su
[00:07]<czespj>Yeah, I'm using bash . . . Oh, I didn't know some programs ignore the command, is ssh one of those programs?
[00:07]<gnvazusxnzoo>yes
[00:07]<svuup>doesn't su use the pam_xauth module to do that anyway?
[00:07]<znznzm>stuuf: that hda3 is a ReiserFS partition, but I enabled ReiserFS support in my kernel
[00:07]<gnvazusxnzoo>it forwards the STOP signal to the remote process
[00:08]<fdnfmd>it should pass it on to the shell you are logged in elsewhere
[00:08]<dzrajgw>ctrl+z sends SIGTSTP to the process, and that process can either do something or ignore it
[00:08]<svuup>aeread: do you have drivers for your ide controller in the kernel?
[00:08]<znznzm>that I dont know
[00:08]<znznzm>what section would that be in
[00:09]<svuup>bus options or device drivers
[00:09]<czespj>Thanks for the information, glad it's not my computer acting up. This brings me to another question though, is there anyway to suspend ssh and make it run in the background?
[00:09]<znznzm>ok, ill boot it with knoppix again and take a look thanks
[00:09]<svuup>CrEsPo:ssh has a special escape key to do that
[00:09]<dzrajgw>CrEsPo, either use ssh's escape key, or send it SIGSTOP with the kill command
[00:11]<sazyfvbfun>does anyone know how I could make
[00:11]<sazyfvbfun>err
[00:11]<dzrajgw>ScriptBlue, run "make" ;)
[00:11]<sazyfvbfun>does anyone know how I could make a livecd bootable from the hard drive?
[00:11]<ma_ffd>How can I get saslpasswd2 command working? I get unknown command, but I don't know what I need to emerge
[00:11]<czespj>Thanks for the information guys, googled the escape key and got it working, much appreciated
[00:11]<sazyfvbfun>like, copying the livecd's contents and getting lilo or grub to boot it
[00:12]<dzrajgw>ScriptBlue, i know it can be done, i did it before by copying the contents of the livecd to an otherwise empty partition, then using some special commands in grub. Unfortunately i've forgotten what the special commands were
[00:12]<sazyfvbfun>k thanks, I'll look it up
[00:13]<_vxgcfjgg>Mc_Fly: dev-libs/cyrus-sasl
[00:13]<ma_ffd>_theklone: I just did that
[00:13]<ducfzzn>still problems :/
[00:13]<ducfzzn>Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[00:13]<ducfzzn>Xlib: No protocol specified
[00:13]<dzrajgw>DuClare, use sux then
[00:14]<_vxgcfjgg>Mc_Fly: you logged in as root?
[00:14]<ducfzzn>Draconx: I did
[00:14]<ma_ffd>_theklone: I think so
[00:14]<ma_ffd>_theklone: yes
[00:14]<svuup>autoheader-2.59: WARNING: documentation.
[00:14]<_vxgcfjgg>Mc_Fly: should work, /usr/sbin/saslpasswd2
[00:14]<sazyfvbfun>ah thanks for the grub clue Draconx, I think I found what I was looking for http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_LiveCD_on_disk
[00:14]<svuup>i love the placing of that line break
[00:15]<ma_ffd>_theklone: bash: /usr/sbin/saslpasswd2: No such file or directory
[00:15]<dzrajgw>ScriptBlue, that looks familiar
[00:16]<wjppnnww>Still no luck with alsa
[00:16]<mzzvyaus>to use alsa, is it necessary to have alsa enabled in the kernel?
[00:16]<_vxgcfjgg>Mc_Fly: and cyrus-sasl is definitely emerged?
[00:16]<vnzanf>Marticus: well thats a bit obvious isn't it :)
[00:17]<mzzvyaus>does the user space alsa conflict with the kernel level or are both nbeeded?
[00:17]<ggmmdsgrrjjg>Marticus, no - you may use alsa-drivers
[00:17]<dzrajgw>Marticus, alsa needs both the kernelspace and userspace components to function, yes.
[00:17]<mzzvyaus>okay
[00:17]<ducfzzn>Draconx: got any ideas?
[00:17]<mzzvyaus>thanks all :)
[00:17]<ma_ffd>_theklone: yes
[00:17]<ggmmdsgrrjjg>Marticus, You may have either kernel alsa or alsa-drivers, not both. Then you need the userspace tools too
[00:17]<_vxgcfjgg>Mc_Fly: what files has it installed? check with qlist or equery
[00:18]<mzzvyaus>err
[00:18]<mzzvyaus>conflicting messages here
[00:18]<ma_ffd>_theklone: don't know those example?
[00:18]<dzrajgw>Marticus, i think you're mixing up the meaning of userspace and kernelspace
[00:18]<svuup>alsa-driver conflicts with in-krnel alsa
[00:18]<svuup>alsa-lib and alsa-utils are needed for both
[00:18]<ggmmdsgrrjjg>Marticus, alsa-drivers is kernel space
[00:19]<_vxgcfjgg>Mc_Fly: you might need berkdb or gdbm USE flags enabled to get saslpasswd2
[00:19]<ggmmdsgrrjjg>Marticus, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml tells you all about it
[00:19]<ma_ffd>_theklone: how do I set them when I emerge?
[00:19]<mzzvyaus>thanks
[00:20]<_vxgcfjgg>Mc_Fly: either globally in /etc/make.conf or per package in /etc/portage/package.use
[00:21]<_vxgcfjgg>Mc_Fly: check what USE flags it was installed with by emerge -pv cyrus-sasl
[00:22]<zgjfmtt0>Hey, Hows it going? Im installing gentoo manually, mostly so i learn more about *nix based OSes. Anyway, i just chrooted into my new environment, (/mnt/gentoo), and I can no longer resolve a name. I can ping any IP fine, but "ping www.google.com" doesn't resolve :-(. /etc/resolve.conf is accurate as far as i can see. Any ideas?
[00:22]<ma_ffd>_theklone: berkdb and gdbm are there but they are green and has a * nex to them
[00:22]<ma_ffd>next
[00:23]<2zyrgw>ZGold550: go outside the chroot, cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf

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