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[02:40]<vuwdyw>when i use the gentoo installer it emerges like 137 packages. when i follow the manual for the command line install it mentions nothing about emerging. is it something im doing wrong?
[02:40]<znysyj>codyzapp: followed the printing guide on gentoo.org, aye?
[02:40]<rjmderll>reisio, affirmative
[02:40]<znysyj>tuxmix: yes, the handbook definitely includes commands that use 'emerge'
[02:41]<lyfuym_fyzn>tuxmix: you'll get to the emerging, don't be afraid :)
[02:41]<gywnz>lol
[02:41]<vuwdyw>Liquid_Fire, well i made it to the end of the book and saw nothing about emering :(
[02:42]<wjzvxrwxjfg2grg>When I install from stage3 and the livecd, is there any way to have sda be the cd drive and hda be the hard drive, instead of the other way around?
[02:42]<lyfuym_fyzn>tuxmix: are you sure you're looking at the right thing?
[02:42]<vuwdyw>Liquid_Fire, irssi should have been installed already when i entered my new environment right
[02:42]<vuwdyw>lemme show you
[02:42]<vuwdyw>http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml
[02:43]<bfung>anyone have more ideas on fixing su? the only thing left I can think of is to reformat my entire gentoo installation and start from scratch... :-(
[02:44]<lyfuym_fyzn>tuxmix: that's the right one.. there's an emerge in part 7, that's the first one i'm noticing
[02:44]<gywnz>blue what syntax did you try to use
[02:44]<trcgsygg>What package is revdep-rebuild apart of?
[02:44]<lyfuym_fyzn>tuxmix: besides, if you thinking you're missing something, you can always emerge it later
[02:44]<lyfuym_fyzn>Takesinn: gentoolkit
[02:44]<vuwdyw>Liquid_Fire, i was in links. maybe i missed a lot of it. i was reinstalling cuz of a corrupted fs. had stage 1 but i did a stage 3 reinstall. then idk it looked like a lot of thinsg were missing so i did the gtk install
[02:45]<vnrvr>what do i need to automount in gnome?
[02:45]<trcgsygg>What the heck is portdir_overlay?
[02:45]<fir[1]>is there a easy way to do xserver config? something that autodetects? i know there is xorgconfig or w/e but i don't have monitor specs for it
[02:45]<ggxjcsrg>hi all
[02:45]<djzgjg>BlueG: what does 'ls -l /bin/su' say? and what does 'groups' say (from the same terminal/user you are trying to su from)
[02:45]<lyfuym_fyzn>Takesinn: a variable that tells portage where additional ebuilds may be found
[02:45]<ggxjcsrg>is it better to manual configure the kernel?
[02:46]<djzgjg>nehoksan: yes
[02:46]<trcgsygg>Ah, so nothing significant... or nothing significant to this install, but significant to further plans :P Thanks
[02:46]<gywnz>fir just use generic values or look online for that monitors specs
[02:46]<ggxjcsrg>also for newbies, moreon? i always had kernel errors :[
[02:46]<fir[1]>there is nothing that auto detects?
[02:46]<fir[1]>like knopix or something
[02:46]<fir[1]>auto config's itself
[02:47]<gywnz>it should already have defaults
[02:47]<gywnz>what resolution do you have now
[02:47]<fir[1]>i dont' have xorg running yet
[02:47]<gywnz>640x480?
[02:47]<fir[1]>package isn't even emerge'd
[02:47]<vuwdyw>Liquid_Fire, u think its better gtk installing ?
[02:47]<fir[1]>i just always had to do xorg conf myself
[02:48]<gywnz>its not really that hard
[02:48]<gywnz>just search for your monitors specs
[02:48]<fir[1]>k :\
[02:48]<lyfuym_fyzn>tuxmix: well, the gtk installer makes it a bit easier and quicker, but you have to know what you're doing
[02:48]<lyfuym_fyzn>tuxmix: you can also do a command-line install from withing the gnome in the livecd, so no need to use links
[02:49]<adgzdg>i have about 900 packages installed, emerge world -DNupv is taking well over 30 seconds -- is that unusual?
[02:49]<vuwdyw>Liquid_Fire, took a long time with the use flags. but i guess i shouldnt complain.
[02:49]<bfung>moreon: ls -l /bin/su gives "-rws--x--x 1 root roo Sep 3 t :
[02:49]<vuwdyw>Liquid_Fire, yeah see i was on a minimal cd. then i found an 06.0 live cd. shoulda done it from that
[02:49]<vuwdyw>would have been much more ejoyable
[02:49]<vuwdyw>but it was indeed a good learning experience whether it worked or not
[02:49]<da2az>FIR[3]: 'decode-edid.pl' will show you your mon specs... iirc, that script is part of the 'lm_sensors' pachage
[02:49]<znysyj>jieryn: not necessarily
[02:49]<vuwdyw>i got plenty of other systems to put gentoo on. got a new hp laptop coming
[02:49]<fir[1]>k thx
[02:49]<adgzdg>reisio: care to give a timing?
[02:49]<adgzdg>reisio: this seems to be recent degraded performance :-/
[02:50]<znysyj>maybe after my emerge -eav world is done :p
[02:50]<bfung>moreon: ls -l /bin/su gives "-rws--x--x 1 root root Sep 3 01:27 /bin/su" and groups gives "wheel audio video users portage"
[02:50]<adgzdg>reisio: eix -cI | wc
[02:50]<znysyj>jieryn: a crapload
[02:51]<znysyj>I have something like 400 more to go :p
[02:51]<adgzdg>reisio: wc does not output 'a crapload'...ever :)
[02:51]<adgzdg>eix -cI tells you how many pcakages you have installed
[02:52]<znysyj>jieryn: this is a fascinating story
[02:53]<lyfuym_fyzn>jieryn: mine takes over a minute with 1000+ packages, athlon xp 1900+, i'm doing other stuff meanwhile, though
[02:53]<pnvnzfa>You guys should use Gentoo.
[02:53]<adgzdg>would someone not an ass eix -Ic? :)
[02:53]<adgzdg>Liquid_Fire: thanks
[02:53]<adgzdg>reisio--
[02:53]<pddznsv0zd>can someone answer a quick question for me? I use gentoo on my server which runs amd..i'm not trying to install on an old compaq (intel 233mhz). Ended up with the i686 tarball which I guess is wrong.. now i'm confused..do I need i586 or x86?
[02:53]<gg-dryg>or debian
[02:53]<gg-dryg>lol
[02:53]<pddznsv0zd>sorry..not = now
[02:53]<znysyj>reisio++
[02:54]<pnvnzfa>fyyrest0rm, x86 is the name of the processor archetecture. i268, i386, i486, i586, and i686 are all of this family
[02:54]<znysyj>fyyrest0rm: 233mhz? i686 is probably too high
[02:54]<znysyj>fyyrest0rm: paste your cat /proc/cpuinfo somewhere
[02:54]<pnvnzfa>fyyrest0rm, the increase in numbers is the successive version of the chipset instruciton set.
[02:55]<da2az>fyyrest0rm: probably x86
[02:55]<bfung>moreon: ls -l /bin/su gives "-rws--x--x 1 root root Sep 3 01:27 /bin/su" and groups gives "wheel audio video users portage" does this mean anything?
[02:55]<fjssy>ok, seems like libexpat was not in xterm
[02:55]<elzzvz>if i run gdmsetup where does it save the config file ?
[02:55]<fjssy>i guess i gotta go on a google spree
[02:56]<anssn>is there a way to record a whole bash session? like a bash recorder? i need input & output
[02:56]<znysyj>zparta: probably in /etc/
[02:56]<trcgsygg>Aha
[02:56]<elzzvz>reisio: i cant seam to find it in there
[02:56]<trcgsygg>Mplayer plays SWFs, so it can be a nsplugin replacement?
[02:57]<vuwdyw>i thikn hell just froze over
[02:57]<vuwdyw>the gtk installer is working :P
[02:57]<zzvvzgmnfzd>is this the correct channel to cry about wireless networking?
[02:57]<fyznwrff`>what does this mean? passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[02:57]<srygvdnv>is there anything similar to uTorrent in portage?
[02:57]<gywnz>artvandelay i feel your pain
[02:57]<fjssy>Firewall`: i think you have to add the user without a password first
[02:57]<fir[1]>i tried to run decode-edid.pl but i get EDID EEPROM not found. Please make sure that the eeprom module is loaded.
[02:57]<znysyj>artvandelay: if you use Gentoo Linux
[02:58]<fjssy>Firewall`: then su into the account and set it
[02:58]<znysyj>mzbot: google SaintDev en.wikipedia.org comparison of bittorrent software







