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[00:00]<vnx_afnzya>grae: look around there's still patches to allow 8k stacks on 32bit, but ultimately they are gone
[00:00]<xnydrv>romildo /etc/init.d/vmware start??
[00:00]<vnx_afnzya>grae: fedora/redhat has been using them since like rhel2/core1
[00:00]<zzrn>teh_cleric, thanks, but no idea which patchsets may still include it?
[00:00]<sydajlq1o6>teh_cleric: sounds like fun, i'll work on that later then, shouldn't be too hard then right?
[00:00]<vnx_afnzya>grae: it won't be one of "those" patchsets
[00:00]<zzrn>if i wanted fedora/redhat, I wouldn't be here :P
[00:00]<zjmyfmj>heimat: Yes, the vmware init script has been started.
[00:00]<vnx_afnzya>simcop2387: not too hard
[00:00]<zzrn>but thanks
[00:01]<vnx_afnzya>grae: none the less a lot of the kernel developers work for them ... it's not like redhat decided this ... more like a lot of kernel developers did
[00:01]<vnx_afnzya>8k stacks are a MAJOR waste on x86
[00:02]<vnx_afnzya>what chipset do you have?
[00:02]<vuwdyw>whats a goochie bag
[00:02]<vnx_afnzya>maybe we can get you away from ndiswrapper
[00:02]<vnx_afnzya>tuxmix: maybe a Gucci Bag?
[00:02]<zjmyfmj>heimat: the vmware init script has loaded the vmware kernel modules. But the network device is listed by ifconfig. I do not understand why.
[00:02]<vuwdyw>yeah gucci
[00:02]<zzrn>for the ndiswrapper wireless? a broadcom relabeled atheros chipset
[00:02]<vnx_afnzya>tuxmix: google it
[00:03]<zzrn>I tried the madwifi driver, but didn't do squat for me
[00:03]<vnx_afnzya>grae: so it's an atheros chipset?
[00:03]<zjmyfmj>heimat: I mean, the vmware networkd devices is _not_ listed by "ifconfig -a"
[00:03]<vnx_afnzya>grae: madwifi or madwifi-ng?
[00:03]<zzrn>dont remember offhand
[00:03]<vnx_afnzya>grae: madwifi was basically dead early 2005 ....
[00:03]<vnx_afnzya>grae: madwifi-ng has support for basically all the atheros chips .... the basis of it was WRITTEN by atheros
[00:04]<xnydrv>romildo: nor me :(
[00:04]<vnx_afnzya>grae: that'd eliminate your problem with 4k stacks AND probably work better/faster
[00:04]<2nx>anyone here using firefox 1.5.0.6
[00:04]<dusvyg_dyvaxnff>OK, one would think this would be a FAQ, but google's not finding much.. what the heck are entries like "10.10.10.2 dustpuppy-int
[00:04]<zzrn>might be, worth a shot at least
[00:04]<dusvyg_dyvaxnff>doing in my /etc/hosts?
[00:04]<zzrn>thanks for the suggestion
[00:05]<zzrn>the irony is that i recently upgraded the kernel from 2.6.10, and am getting crashes
[00:05]<gdo>Okay, cdk keeps failing on me when I try and emerge world -- I tried remerging libtool, but it still fails. Any suggestions?
[00:05]<zzrn>GD0, whats the error?
[00:06]<vnx_afnzya>grae: from .10 to what?
[00:06]<zzrn>is it a compilation or configuration error?
[00:06]<sdggnz>can someone tell me why the date on my system is MDT (mountain daylight time- as in Denver) when the /etc/localtime is pointing /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago (which should be central time zone)
[00:06]<vnx_afnzya>.16?
[00:06]<ljzyzzzu_wjzc>can someone point me to a howto for installing lamp
[00:06]<gdo>d'oh, the error went off the buffer, and I just did emerge --resume, but that started libtool again >_< give me a few minutes grae
[00:06]<vnx_afnzya>synner: something is setting TZ?
[00:06]<ljzyzzzu_wjzc>especially which use flags I need
[00:06]<zzrn>teh_cleric, 2.6.17.13, seems to be working the best, and only bombs out on wireless traffic
[00:06]<vnx_afnzya>synner: see if TZ works
[00:06]<gdo>something about crtn.o not being found, if I remember correctly.
[00:07]<vnx_afnzya>grae: probably ndiswrapper ... ndiswrapper is after all a hack
[00:07]<vnx_afnzya>synner: i mean see if TZ is set ....
[00:07]<zzrn>teh_cleric, oh I'm aware, and a nifty one at that
[00:08]<xrds>I wonder what's holding up libdv
[00:08]<dusvyg_dyvaxnff>This /etc/hosts entry is the best: "134.68.220.30 toucan" points to toucan.ussg.iupui.edu, which is just an Apache test page..
[00:08]<vnx_afnzya>nifty ... interesting way of putting it :)
[00:08]<xrds>the dupes are flying in on the stable request for 0.104
[00:08]<f>one question
[00:08]<ecxzys>yes? :P
[00:08]<f>http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL says "You will also need to merge Subversion with webdav support enabled. You must disable the nowebdav flag. Add a line to /etc/portage/package.use if necessary:"
[00:08]<f>But on the next line
[00:08]<vuwdyw>can some one help me connect with naim
[00:08]<guu2nz>Hey guys, if I don't have man /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then I need to emerge some more stuff, yes?
[00:09]<f>they want me to do this command
[00:09]<f>echo "dev-util/subversion -nowebdav" >> /etc/portage/package.use
[00:09]<ecxzys>Guuber: tried man xorg.conf ?
[00:09]<vnx_afnzya>F: that's wiki's for you
[00:09]<srccrvx>What's a good solution for virtual ftp?
[00:09]<vnx_afnzya>F: goto #gentoo-xgl?
[00:09]<f>theres a note though that says Note: There is double negation in the USE flag.
[00:09]<srccrvx>I can use proftpd or vsftpd with mysql... but neither allow teh user to change his/her password
[00:09]<f>but only one negation :P
[00:09]<zzrn>Guuber, if xorg.conf isn't there, try runnging "X -configure" as root
[00:09]<vnx_afnzya>F: Read the topic
[00:09]<f>teh_cleric: good idea :D
[00:10]<sdggnz>teh_cleric, how do i know if tz is set or where would it be set?
[00:10]<vnx_afnzya>synner: echo $TZ
[00:10]<gyws>I can't get GRUB to work, (Error 17), is there some way to format or reset the MBR?
[00:10]<guu2nz>grae, I get an error when I try it
[00:10]<dusvyg_dyvaxnff>"grep -r dustbunny /usr/portage" finds nothing.. What the heck is pitr? dustpuppy? poseidon? toucan? gravity.twi-31o2.org?
[00:10]<guu2nz>zChris, yeah, I can get that mapge
[00:10]<sdggnz>teh_cleric, it just echos a blank line
[00:10]<guu2nz>*page
[00:11]<lzjvnw>Guys, my server and my laptop have the same IP? Is something wrong with my router?
[00:11]<ecxzys>Guuber: whats the prob then ? :P
[00:11]<zzrn>Guuber, alright, so what is the error?
[00:11]<vnx_afnzya>synner: that means it's not set ... you can set it in /etc/conf.d/clock as well i believe
[00:11]<gdo>protex: that depends on how you're granting machine's IPs.
[00:11]<vnx_afnzya>protex: if they are both dhcp then yes
[00:11]<guu2nz>grae, Says it caught signal 11....2 sec..
[00:11]<vnx_afnzya>if one's static and one dhcp ... obviously :)
[00:12]<zzrn>Guuber, signal 11 is a segmentation fault
[00:12]<lzjvnw>They are both DHCP to the router, and the router is set statically
[00:12]<vnx_afnzya>protex: how's the router giving dhcp?
[00:12]<gdo>protex: then the machines should probably be static too...
[00:12]<vnx_afnzya>can it create the files it needs to track ip<==>mac addresses?
[00:12]<gdo>How can they be given DHCP information if the router isn't setup to do so?
[00:12]<vnx_afnzya>most of the time i find that's the problem
[00:12]<lzjvnw>teh_cleric: GD0, well the router assigned my laptop 192.168.0.101 same as my server >_<
[00:12]<gdo>(it's an Oh, by the way, not a zero).
[00:13]<guu2nz>grae, any ideas where to look?
[00:13]<zzrn>Guuber, no idea what caused it off the top of my head, but try looking in /var/log/ for the xorg log file

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