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[00:50]<me>anyone know of a tetrinet client that doesn't require installing half of gnome?
[00:50]<fr>how do i unchroot?
[00:51]<me>lg: exit
[00:51]<pyguwprgq007>lg: exit
[00:51]<2smpjw>lg: exit
[00:51]<fr>i knew it :)
[00:51]<tzfyscnz>lg: Ctrl+D
[00:51]<me>Talisker: just had to be different, didn't you
[00:51]<tzfyscnz>well sor-ee
[00:51]<me>:P
[00:51]<cndvjzsvnz>lg: "tetrinet", but that one is console based
[00:51]<me>keytoaster: you're lost :P
[00:51]<me>keytoaster: and 'tetrinet' is a server, not a client
[00:52]<tzfyscnz>anyway, trying to untar portage creates a lot of "can't open file or directory" errors
[00:52]<ggjejge>electrofreak: I emerged , suspend2 and I made the .config, now what do I do?
[00:52]<pzgggdvd>electrofreak, the problem is that it looks for .config file. and there were no .config file it the directory, so I executed make menuconfig and created .config with default options. where does live cd installer stores its .config file?????
[00:52]<me>oh, wait, no. the description lies.
[00:53]<tzfyscnz>And sometimes, trying to manipulate data on /mnt/gentoo [/dev/hda] generates a "read only file system" error
[00:53]<npnrvzjpznrc>freenity, 'zcat /proc/config.gz'
[00:53]<tzfyscnz>but then again, most of the time it's fine
[00:53]<npnrvzjpznrc>Neozonz, make sure .config is in the dir of the suspend2sources and then go into that dir and run 'make oldconfig'
[00:53]<pzgggdvd>but I need to copy it to /usr/kernel/linux/
[00:53]<dyr_arrrf>i specified in my use variable athlon-xp, but i am not sure if my athlon isn't a thunderbird instead, could it make the compiler segfault?
[00:54]<mwnffsxnzn>hi, sorry to repeat my question - downgrading the kernel through portage: possible/sensible?
[00:54]<scugcd>Talisker: sounds like you've got a bad disk.
[00:54]<pzgggdvd>electrofreak,but I need to copy it to /usr/kernel/linux/
[00:54]<tzfyscnz>I hope my hard drive isn't dying :/
[00:54]<scugcd>dwellshere: portage doesn't give you a kernel, just sources.
[00:54]<mwnffsxnzn>ok, yes ..
[00:54]<npnrvzjpznrc>freenity, 'zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/kernel/linux/filename'
[00:54]<mwnffsxnzn>thanks for the lesson in terminology skunky, my question still stands
[00:54]<ggjejge>electrofreak: if I do that, does it run a textbased menu?
[00:54]<tzfyscnz>Is using a SATA hd connected to an IDE adapter faster then using an IDE hd?
[00:55]<_aws_>ergh. Has anyone set up linux (cups) to print to a windows shared printer, and although everything says it works, the printer just starts up and then resets instead of printing anything?
[00:55]<scugcd>dwellshere: no, your question was answered.
[00:55]<vzgmggjgvgz>hi guys, i've got a library that causes crashes on gentoo
[00:55]<vzgmggjgvgz>application crashes
[00:55]<npnrvzjpznrc>Neozonz, no. It'll compare the .config file with the options supported in the new kernel, asking you questions about stuff along the way. It wont be too many questions unless you're upgrading from a much older kernel. One of the questions will be about suspend2, though
[00:56]<vzgmggjgvgz>could this be due to compile flags?
[00:56]<npnrvzjpznrc>Neozonz, you can run make menuconfig after it, though
[00:56]<pzgggdvd>electrofreak, thanks. Im installing the driver now =)
[00:56]<cuzd>anyone have any experience installing gentoo on a macbook pro...
[00:56]<mwnffsxnzn>Skunky, again, thanks for your lesson course, though I do disagree with the curriculum, you were certainly thorough ;). Now, is it possible to get the kernel sources for old gentoo-sources kernels?
[00:56]<vzgmggjgvgz>the app is 'estcmd' and it's crashing in libqdbm
[00:56]<jnff-o-fysxy>are glsa's fetched on emerge --sync ?
[00:57]<zgvzzus>Jell-O-Fishi: yes
[00:57]<scugcd>dwellshere: sure, emerge =gentoo-sources-2.6.11, for example
[00:57]<jnff-o-fysxy>argg..
[00:57]<zgvzzus>Skunky: uhhh not if the ebuild isn't in the tree ;)
[00:57]<scugcd>dwellshere: of course, as antarus says, the ebuild DOES have to be in the portage tree still
[00:57]<fr>btw, which wifi chipset do u advice to use with gentoo?
[00:58]<scugcd>dwellshere: so that means you could only go as far back as... 2.6.15-r1 for gentoo-sources
[00:58]<mwnffsxnzn>Skunky, ok, thanks, if it's not then I guess I'll need a generic linux kernel source
[00:58]<ggjejge>electrofreak: how do I know what I need and don't o_o
[00:58]<pzgggdvd>electrofreak, while compiling it throws this error: WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r5/Module.symvers
[00:58]<pzgggdvd> is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[00:59]<dyr_arrrf>sheesh redoing emerge world deep -_-
[00:59]<pzgggdvd>and doesnt finish
[00:59]<lyag>Maybe a stupid question.. but how long does a bootstrap take normally :P
[00:59]<scugcd>dwellshere: of course, this leaves the question, why would you wanna go back to something THAT far.
[00:59]<npnrvzjpznrc>Neozonz, ...based on your hardware. If you don't kow, just hit enter to go with the default response.
[00:59]<scugcd>pijn: from stage1? days and days and days. (:
[00:59]<dyr_arrrf>btw is there any infos for making old stage 1 /2 installs?
[00:59]<lyag>Skunky: heh i know enough :P
[00:59]<ggjejge>electrofreak: also one question what is "default resume device name" for suspend2?
[01:00]<ggjejge>is that teh swap's name?
[01:00]<me>Neozonz: yeah
[01:00]<npnrvzjpznrc>freenity, did it stop? or is it just a warning. If it's a warning, just ignore it
[01:00]<scugcd>Die_Angel: it's in the OLD handbooks, from when it was supported...
[01:00]<mwnffsxnzn>Skunky, the drivers for my webcam will only compile on an older kernel (2.6.8, or something similar) will it be safe to run one of these older beasts?
[01:00]<npnrvzjpznrc>Neozonz, your swap partition, I believe
[01:00]<ggjejge>my swap is smaller then my memory tho
[01:00]<ggjejge>isn't that bad?
[01:00]<pwggrw>Neozonz: How much RAM do you have?
[01:00]<pzgggdvd>electrofreak, it stopped with this error: !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.11 failed.
[01:00]<ggjejge>1GB
[01:00]<ggjejge>ram
[01:00]<ggjejge>512swap
[01:00]<pzgggdvd>electrofreak, make failed
[01:00]<pwggrw>Neozonz: Then I doubt it matters, I doubt you'll kill that much memory.
[01:01]<scugcd>dwellshere: that's likely not a good idea. nobody on the gentoo side has made an ebuild to make the drivers happier?
[01:01]<npnrvzjpznrc>Neozonz, probably. Heh. are you reading the guide on suspend2? there is a way to make a suspend file. That is what I had to do, too
[01:01]<dnuvnzyud>dwellshere: not a good idea
[01:01]<me>electrofreak: there is now?
[01:01]<crxlpy>I get segfault at "source /etc/profile", anyone feel like guessing?
[01:01]<npnrvzjpznrc>dz ???
[01:01]<pwggrw>Neozonz: I have 2GB of RAM and have _NEVER_ touched my SWAP yet, back when I ran 1GB of RAM I rarely touched the SWAP
[01:01]<me>electrofreak: back when I used it you couldn't
[01:01]<mwnffsxnzn>ok, thanks guys. There is a hacked version of the drivers which uses in-kernel jpeg compression which will compile on the latest kernels
[01:02]<ggjejge>Phenax: problem is
[01:02]<me>Phenax: I think caches and buffers count for suspend2
[01:02]<npnrvzjpznrc>dz, yeah. There is a suspend file now...
[01:02]<auvapaurrfn_d>okay, i cant chroot with minimal amd64 cd on my athalon64 processor
[01:02]<crxlpy>following install docs on website
[01:02]<jnff-o-fysxy>was there some funky update to portage recently that causes it to think that some packages are suddenly not installed ?
[01:02]<ggjejge>Phenax: if my computer uses more then 512 then tries to save it to swap...
[01:02]<crxlpy>athlon-xp
[01:02]<me>electrofreak: does it support swapfiles as well?
[01:02]<npnrvzjpznrc>freenity, try a different version
[01:02]<mwnffsxnzn>Skunky, but the modules don't seem to detect the card

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