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[00:00]<lnrjrud>du -mshx / says 3.0G / but df -h says /dev/hda3 9.7G (total) 7.7G (used) 1.5G (free) 85% /
[00:00]<dyndjs>To install via a usb DVDRW, i'd have to do APCI off right?
[00:01]<jmm_bfjcn>Is there a networking specific IRC channel?
[00:02]<dyndjs>try #cisco
[00:02]<dyndjs>or #networking
[00:02]<jmm_bfjcn>Are either of those likely to support the Gentoo way of doing things?
[00:02]<lzjvnw_>Is torsmo not in portage anymore?
[00:03]<svjgnpysx>Those are likely to support networking. If anything doesn't translate into gentooish for you, feel free to ask us that part.
[00:03]<jmm_bfjcn>OK, I'll give it a shot.
[00:03]<jmm_bfjcn>Thanks.
[00:03]<svjgnpysx>Depends what you're after, really.
[00:04]<_aws_>protex_, its called conky now
[00:04]<lzyud`>so i just did the modular-x howto (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml) and now X freezes when it loads...where should i start?
[00:04]<svjgnpysx>Portage really needs to leave old stuff in the tree as a placeholder with a message saying "WE HAVE MOVED" :)
[00:04]<_aws_>Stonefish, ..or something
[00:05]<_aws_>mind you, torsmo moved a year ago
[00:05]<svjgnpysx>and? Most documentation projects won't reflect that until around 2012 :)
[00:05]<_aws_>and the torsmo upstream project died two years ago
[00:06]<svjgnpysx>I keep running into docs that talk about the new 2.4 kernel.
[00:07]<_aws_>woah, you mean 2.4 is out?
[00:07]<_aws_>:)
[00:07]<svjgnpysx>apparently
[00:08]<_aws_>sweet, time for me to upgrade
[00:08]<me>229 of 440 :/
[00:08]<me>on a 1ghz laptop
[00:08]<svjgnpysx>Coincidentally, most of them are written by Redhat users. Redhat 6, I think.
[00:08]<svyffugcgjwg>doing what?
[00:08]<svyffugcgjwg>@dz
[00:08]<lzjvnw_>_AxS_: Oh alrighty, thanks
[00:08]<me>emerge -e world after gcc upgrade
[00:09]<_aws_>Stonefish, makes sense, .except RH6 was a 2.2 kernel
[00:09]<svyffugcgjwg>dz: 440 is not that much
[00:10]<svyffugcgjwg>wait until libexpat stabalizes, that will be fun :-)
[00:10]<me>stillunknown: it is on a 1ghz laptop without distcc
[00:10]<svyffugcgjwg>(libexpat-2
[00:10]<svyffugcgjwg>)
[00:11]<svyffugcgjwg>dz: how long has it been going?
[00:12]<xfu2jacd>my time is off by an hour and I am using NTP... what could be the problem?
[00:12]<trcgsygg>hmm
[00:12]<grvn77n1>hlubocky: set your timezone incorrectly?
[00:13]<xfu2jacd>the /etc/localtime file?
[00:13]<xfu2jacd>how do I reload a change to that?
[00:13]<trcgsygg>Like I've said it's been a long time since I used linux so I'm just wondering: Why does the standard desktop profile in linux gentoo specify both qt3 and qt4? Isn't qt4 backwards compatible?
[00:13]<_aws_>OK. I need to emerge some things on the livecd itself. (yes i know they'll be gone on next reboot). I extracted the portage snapshot, and emerge --metadata'd. There are all the entried in /var/lib/portage/world. However, every emerge test i do acts as if there is nothing in world. any ideas?
[00:14]<_aws_>entries, that is
[00:14]<vrd2u>weird.. who put firefox as a build requirement for gnome...
[00:14]<zgvzzus>Takesinn: no
[00:14]<zgvzzus>Takesinn: both are required
[00:14]<vmz>tambu, firefox or seamonkey is required so that epiphany builds
[00:14]<wjegyrc>Takesinn: most qt3 programs don't compile/work on qt4, current kde is qt3 only, kde4 will be the 1st qt4 kde
[00:14]<xfyg2gzdrg>tambu, Ahahaha. Tha'ts beautiful.
[00:14]<frssyprfsy>what's a minimal gnome use variable list, where can i find it?
[00:15]<lzyud>is there a way to start X detached in some way, so that if it freezes, you don't have to hard-power down your system?
[00:15]<mzzzjgxnzzv>hlubocky: use ntp -s in /etc/conf.d/ntpd
[00:15]<ajypn>epiphany needs the gecko engine tambu
[00:15]<crxlnx>thats it Aoife
[00:15]<trcgsygg>ow
[00:15]<zgvzzus>_AxS_: make sure ROOT is unset
[00:15]<vrd2u>Aoife, and what it can't use the firefox binary thats already installed?
[00:15]<mzzzjgxnzzv>hlubocky: by default ntp won't change the time by mroe than 180 seconds.
[00:15]<trcgsygg>So QTech was finished but KDE is still working at it. got it, got it..
[00:15]<ajypn>is this a binary from mozilla.org?
[00:16]<ajypn>in that case, probably not. In order to link against it you need the header files for it.
[00:16]<vrd2u>Aoife, mozilla-firefox-bin ebuild
[00:16]<xfu2jacd>dragonheart, hmm I'll try that
[00:16]<ajypn>hmmm... in that case I'm not sure.
[00:16]<amvm2mzm>hi can anyone help me with my cdrom problem?? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-499234.html
[00:16]<vrd2u>Aoife, ugh.. hrm.. anyway to make ephiphany not build? I've no use for it.
[00:16]<dyrdjgvn_>its weird seeing a Internet Explorer 6 icon on my desktop
[00:17]<vrd2u>Firefox takes hours to build src doesn't it?
[00:17]<_aws_>antarus, its unset -- thats not it :/
[00:17]<dyrdjgvn_>firefox is about 30 mins
[00:17]<xmmzjrgg>it depends on your computer.
[00:17]<xfu2jacd>dragonheart, you mean in the line NTPD_OPTS="" ?
[00:17]<_aws_>antarus, emerge --info shows no info about python version, etc. etc. although they are all installed in the image
[00:17]<ajypn>to be honest, I'm not sure... I'm actually a fairly new user to gentoo... I'm just installing X now :)
[00:17]<amvm2mzm>tambu: only 30 min on my machine
[00:17]<xmmzjrgg>firefox took an hour here
[00:17]<mzzzjgxnzzv>hlubocky: yep add a -s there and restart the ntpd init script
[00:18]<xfu2jacd>hmm, that option to ntpd is for statistics directory I think
[00:18]<amvm2mzm>tambu: actually 31 minutes for the latest version on a 2.0GHz pentium M
[00:18]<mzzzjgxnzzv>hlubocky: lowercase s
[00:18]<vrd2u>citybird, hrm.. ok I'm sure my laptop doesn't match that but as long as it doesn't take hours..
[00:19]<vrd2u>wasn't there some there some gentoo tool that could estimate emerge times and show previous? I haven't used it in a long time.
[00:19]<xmmzjrgg>genlop
[00:19]<zxyrrg>_AxS_ I posted it to b.g.o , hope i did everything right
[00:19]<xmmzjrgg>or qlop
[00:20]<xfu2jacd>dragonheart, looks like the option might be -g
[00:20]<vrd2u>hydrogen, hrm.. genlop that sounds like it.. thx
[00:20]<_aws_>rhican, cool tnx
[00:21]<2dvnsxrac>can someone recomend a good doc for recompiling the kernel?
[00:21]<2dvnsxrac>the ones that I've found are not enough
[00:21]<2dvnsxrac>for instance: when I recompile, do I need to do a "make clean"?
[00:21]<_aws_>byteshack, no
[00:21]<2dvnsxrac>or, how to I name my kernel something different to be able to differentiate between them?
[00:21]<krsdw>I've completely broken /var and now I can't emerge anything. Can anyone help?
[00:21]<crxlnx>where does package.use go? or should I just stick with modding make.conf?
[00:21]<2dvnsxrac>when do I need to do a "make clean"?
[00:22]<_aws_>byteshack, as of 2.6 kernels you dont need to make clean.

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