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[17:58]<kyddja>Are you gonna simulate the universe?
[17:58]<slcjd2>Tassium: google the model number?
[17:58]<dr2yrg>SpComb : Nah .. the one with half the cache .. 4200+
[17:58]<slcjd2>the X2 3800 (what I have), supposedly overclocks past the 4800 at stock
[17:59]<slcjd2>and costs half as much
[17:59]<slcjd2>not tried it yet, though
[17:59]<dr2yrg>nice
[17:59]<slcjd2>KimmoA: but get a ups, we love upses!
[17:59]<dr2yrg>Wonder how the 4200+ overclocks :)
[17:59]<dr2yrg>SpComb : Heh .. I have 2.
[17:59]<kyddja>SpComb: I would like to.
[17:59]<slcjd2>Dabian: I just bought a APC SmartUps 3000 VA :P
[18:00]<slcjd2>well, a month ago, but whatever
[18:00]<dr2yrg>KimmoA : Actually it gets complicated, its better if you can afford one big.
[18:00]<kyddja>I just sold my 1U rackserver chassis, but I bought candy and Coca Cola to keep my will to live...
[18:00]<kyddja>(Not for all, of course...)
[18:00]<dr2yrg>SpComb : I got MGE .. but only 700 VA ;-)
[18:00]<trssyud>Is there anything I should keep in mind as a gotcha when upgrading from a ~20 gig laptop IDE hard drive to one ~80-100 GB?
[18:00]<kyddja>Engage: Candy bar.
[18:00]<slcjd2>I have a 500 VA on my server, a 750 VA on my desktop, and now this 3000 VA that I mean to use for my server, and a some other people's servers as well
[18:01]<vajusc>I have an APC, and a Nikko, both 600VA
[18:01]<slcjd2>a 3000 VA ups makes very little sense for a single server
[18:01]<vajusc>and both were given to me 'cause their batteries were dead (:
[18:01]<dr2yrg>SpComb : Save if they turn off the power every night, I guess :-P
[18:01]<slcjd2>all of mine are either new or refurbished
[18:01]<slcjd2>well, they don't :P
[18:01]<dr2yrg>hehehe
[18:01]<dr2yrg>SpComb : Thats good. :)
[18:02]<slcjd2>the way it works is that you have lots of 1 secodn powerouts, and then a couple > 5 hour ones every year
[18:02]<dr2yrg>SpComb : Have you surged your net and modem connections also?
[18:02]<slcjd2>Dabian: fiber optic :P
[18:02]<slcjd2>this is at my boarding school
[18:02]<dr2yrg>nice :)
[18:02]<slcjd2>here at home (summer holidays), there is a cheap surge protector in front of everything, but nothing on the telephone lines
[18:03]<trssyud>When I told my supervisor we needed to protect against power surges on all network devices, he refused on the basis of cost
[18:03]<trssyud>So, while the server is nice and surge-protected, the switches and all the workstations aren't.
[18:03]<slcjd2>I have a small linux box here that I mean to use as a gw for the DSL, and a server for some stuff
[18:03]<slcjd2>I mean to give the current 500 VA ups to my parents once I get the 3000 VA one up
[18:04]<slcjd2>I feel so happy every time there is a powerout and all the computers in the computer lab go off
[18:04]<slcjd2>and being able to get statistics on the powerouts is also nice
[18:05]<kyddja>Yes! My script works! ^_^
[18:05]<slcjd2>http://cgi.ebay.de/Mustek-UPS-PowerMust-600-USB-TOP-OVP_W0QQitemZ9739482667QQcategoryZ26810QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <-- but that's something I would buy
[18:05]<kyddja>I KNEW I'd need it.
[18:05]<slcjd2>if I needed it
[18:05]<kyddja>Bah.
[18:05]<kyddja>It's so horribly ugly.
[18:05]<kyddja>Besides, with an UPS, my script would be worthless.
[18:06]<slcjd2>http://cgi.ebay.de/APC-Smart-UPS-700-700VA-230V-450Watt-RG_W0QQitemZ9741154779QQcategoryZ26810QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[18:06]<slcjd2>lots of nice deals on ebay
[18:06]<slcjd2>KimmoA: good thinking :P
[18:06]<slcjd2>KimmoA: hide it under the desk?
[18:06]<kyddja>Every inch is full... :S
[18:06]<kyddja>Or, in my case, every cm.
[18:07]<kyddja>Don't they make UPSes that you connect directly to the master power?
[18:07]<trssyud>Master power?
[18:07]<trssyud>You mean God or something?
[18:07]<kyddja>Like... I want it to work for all my hardware which basically goes through the same power cable.
[18:07]<kyddja>Three computers are beyond that.
[18:08]<kyddja>Plus one monitor.
[18:08]<kyddja>Two are servers and one is not always on.
[18:08]<dr2yrg>SpComb : Telephone lines are dangerous.
[18:08]<trssyud>Dabian: Lightning killed my modem and NIC. USR replaced the modem free of charge. (I love USR)
[18:09]<slcjd2>KimmoA: upses have the kind of plugs that computer PSU:s...
[18:09]<slcjd2>you can make a adapter cable to plug normal plugs into it too
[18:09]<kyddja>http://www.dustinhome.se/DacsaPortal/?ProdID=5010079812 <-- HMM...
[18:09]<kyddja>(That's around 55 euros.)
[18:12]<slcjd2>new == expensive
[18:12]<kyddja>Crapbay...
[18:12]<slcjd2>but 210W isn't much...
[18:12]<slcjd2>how so?
[18:12]<dr2yrg>Tassium : Who is USR?
[18:12]<gglvugg__>US Robotics?
[18:13]<slcjd2>ebay == just-like-new hardware for cheap
[18:13]<trssyud>*nod* US Robotics
[18:13]<kyddja>Don't they sell ones with just ONE socket?
[18:13]<kyddja>eBay = delivery fees, scams and the worst Web site ever.
[18:14]<slcjd2>online == delivery fees
[18:14]<kyddja>I live in Sweden.
[18:14]<slcjd2>dunno about scams, my experiences with ebay so far have been awesome
[18:14]<slcjd2>true, no ebay.se
[18:14]<slcjd2>shipping for my ups was 50 euros inside germany :/
[18:14]<kyddja>Actually, yes.
[18:14]<kyddja>There is now.
[18:14]<slcjd2>they brought it into our garage with a forklift truck ^^
[18:15]<slcjd2>kinda impressive
[18:15]<slcjd2>but expensive
[18:15]<kyddja>:S
[18:15]<kyddja>I'm too cheap (and poor) for proper backups.
[18:16]<slcjd2>I get to truck it back to finland in our car now
[18:16]<slcjd2>mm, I waste money on computer hardware :P
[18:16]<kyddja>Me too. All of it. And yet I'm poor...
[18:16]<slcjd2>my server worked fine on 512 MB ram, but it now has 2 GB of ram
[18:16]<kyddja>Roar.
[18:16]<slcjd2>(because I bought new ram for my desktop)
[18:17]<slcjd2>I only get 250 euros a month, but a lot of money accumulates on my bank account...
[18:17]<slcjd2>I work at nokia, not allowence :P
[18:18]<gglvugg__>SpComb - building stuff with little resources is more fun then throwing money at the problem
[18:18]<slcjd2>and just about all of it ends up getting used on computers
[18:18]<trssyud>Neptune__: Want my job? I've got no budget. :)
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