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Log from #hardware at freenode 2006-06-26
[00:39]<rrggraugc>anyone suggestions on how to empty a water cooling system ? Won't my cpu get overheated
[00:39]<wgzggac>motherboard connector headers pin numbers follow like DIL pin numbers ? counter-clockwise ?
[00:40]<slcjd2>cannajunk: turn off the computer and then do it?
[00:41]<rrggraugc>but the water pump only runs when system is on
[00:41]<slcjd2>read the manual?
[00:42]<rrggraugc>there's nothing in there about emptying it only filling.
[00:42]<rrggraugc>does the cpu get hot in bios mode or let it stay in lilo
[00:43]<slcjd2>I would't power it on without cooling
[00:43]<eyvxjwr>where can I find the max temp my athlon xp 2000+ should reach? it's @ 76 right now if that is a problem
[00:44]<slcjd2>celcius?
[00:44]<eyvxjwr>it just got up to 90 a few minutes ago and i powered off
[00:44]<eyvxjwr>yes
[00:44]<slcjd2>too high...
[00:44]<eyvxjwr>78
[00:44]<slcjd2>not fatal, but... improve case cooling / fix cpu fan
[00:44]<eyvxjwr>CPU fan makes noises right now
[00:45]<eyvxjwr>do you think i could replace it with a fan from my older heatsink?
[00:45]<svjzcdn>if it's too hot to touch then you're in trouble.
[00:45]<slcjd2>2000+ 1667 1.75V 90 Degrees Celsius
[00:45]<slcjd2>I'd classify 78° C as too hot to touch :/
[00:46]<svjzcdn>my sex-box is at 31C.. i'm happy
[00:46]<rrggraugc>my intel p4 630 3.0Ghz at 3,6 Ghz runs at 55 celcius idle 66 celcius heavy load nvidia GT PCI-e 256Mb DDR3 56 celcuis idle 76 celcuis heavy load
[00:46]<eyvxjwr>I have a 2500+ running in the 70s with a pretty new heatsink
[00:47]<slcjd2>"nvidia GT"
[00:47]<slcjd2>doesn't say much
[00:47]<eyvxjwr>if the max is 90, then is it unhealthy to have it running in the 70s?
[00:47]<slcjd2>it should be 30-50 or so...
[00:47]<slcjd2>70... it will work, but not much headroom, and it will probably have a short lifetime...
[00:48]<slcjd2>I'd say you didn't aplly thermal paste properly
[00:48]<rrggraugc>gigabyte nvidia geforce 6800
[00:48]<slcjd2>if it's a new heatsink
[00:48]<slcjd2>my X2 3800 runs at 28 idle, 35 load, 7800 GT at 40-50 or so
[00:48]<slcjd2>off the top of my head
[00:49]<svjzcdn>mm
[00:49]<rrggraugc>how about the thermal paste how much shoud that be the hole 3gr tube and spread all over the cpu or only the middle about 1cm from edge ?
[00:49]<svjzcdn>i overclocked my X2 4200+, so it's 30C idle, 50C full load, my 6600GT is 40C idle, 45C load
[00:51]<rrggraugc>SpComb: what's your room temp ?
[00:51]<slcjd2>well, 21-25 or so
[00:51]<slcjd2>never measure
[00:51]<slcjd2>d
[00:51]<slcjd2>cannajunk: a thin layer that covers the heat spreader...
[00:52]<slcjd2>how did you apply it?
[00:52]<vzyppym_hugvnz>ambient+n temperatures are far more useful i think
[00:52]<slcjd2>the point of the paste is to fill in the microscopic holes and ridges in the heatsink and cpu surface
[00:52]<rrggraugc>allover the cpu not to thick but not to thin
[00:52]<vzyppym_hugvnz>cannajunk: you want the thinnest layer of paste, only barely enough to fill all the minute scratches in the metal. apply too much, and you may as well have none.
[00:52]<slcjd2>so a 1mm layer is way too much
[00:53]<rrggraugc>oke so now should I remove everything or could i just remove a little
[00:53]<vzyppym_hugvnz>the purpose of the paste is to fill in scratches, not to make up for those all to common concave heatsinks or things like that
[00:54]<vzyppym_hugvnz>cannajunk: take some off with a credit card.. usually I lap the heatsink before applying paste
[00:54]<caayza>If I have a fever and I eat thermal paste will it help?
[00:54]<slcjd2>depends how you define help
[00:54]<vzyppym_hugvnz>kojiro: might take your mind off the fever for a bit..
[00:54]<slcjd2>try applying it to yor forehead
[00:54]<slcjd2>use thermal epoxy to attach a active heatsink to your forehead
[00:55]<slcjd2>'jej'
[00:55]<rrggraugc>kojiro: if you take the copper thermal past you surly die
[00:55]<caayza>heh
[00:55]<caayza>No, your hair just gets redder
[00:55]<rrggraugc>copper in your blood isn't a good thing !
[00:56]<slcjd2>pfft
[00:58]<rrggraugc>can you mix two cooland fluids ? I wanne add a radiotor but it's already filled with fluid
[00:59]<vzyppym_hugvnz>cannajunk: depends on the fluids..
[01:00]<rrggraugc>well better first empty the radiator to make sure.
[01:01]<slcjd2>and boil it!
[01:01]<rrggraugc>why boil it
[01:02]<slcjd2>for fun
[01:03]<rrggraugc>what happends ?
[01:27]<pfd2rac>NO
[01:27]<pfd2rac>never mix different antifreeze types
[01:27]<pfd2rac>there are certain types for certain cars
[01:27]<pfd2rac>unless you get a universal one
[01:27]<slcjd2>cars?
[01:27]<slcjd2>what about watercooling systems?
[01:28]<pfd2rac>oh
[01:28]<pfd2rac>heh
[01:28]<pfd2rac>dunno'
[01:32]<eyvxjwr>i turned the clock speed down to 100 instead of 133 to cool off my CPU to 60 C after all. :P
[01:32]<eyvxjwr>the ultimate cooling solution
[01:33]<slcjd2>better off getting a new fan :/
[01:33]<slcjd2>or checking the paste
[01:34]<eyvxjwr>well the computer doesn't need to be fast. i'm just using it for a few months and it's not my main rig
[01:34]<eyvxjwr>haha, it just goes against everything this channel stands for probably :\
[01:53]<pfd2rac>uhh
[01:53]<fmjv>nah, computers have to serve their purpose
[01:53]<pfd2rac>60c is still too hihgh
[01:53]<fmjv>depends for what tech
[01:53]<fmjv>.16u or .22u should be quite happy
[02:04]<szdpznsfndw>yo all
[02:12]<caayza>sorry about that
[02:12]<caayza>all the nick changes, I mean
[03:25]<pzzjdnvxnus>Hey guys. I tried to swap around some hardware for the first time in a few Linux boxes and then I swapped it back and now my system is running S-L-O-W. Can anyone point me to a place where I might be able to find some help?
[03:25]<pryfnrs>what distro?
[03:25]<pzzjdnvxnus>Ubuntu
[03:25]<pryfnrs>try asking at the distro channel if you think its a software issue
[03:25]<pzzjdnvxnus>I swapped out two RAM sticks and the video card then put them back
[03:25]<2zyac>Prrometheus, turn DMA on
[03:25]<pzzjdnvxnus>what's DMA?
[03:26]<2zyac>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_memory_access







