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[08:50]<svjzdsrrln>I trigged overload protection
[08:50]<svjzdsrrln>and it turned off my desk fan and speakers
[08:51]<svjzdsrrln>and one of my monitors
[08:51]<lsd`>...you have your desk fan, speakers and monitors plugged into the UPS? o.O
[08:51]<svjzdsrrln>and 2 computers
[08:51]<svjzdsrrln>I ran out of plugs so I have a powerbar plugged in
[08:52]<vzyppym_hugvnz>only thing you should have on the ups is the computers, and maybe one screen
[08:52]<svjzdsrrln>my printer uses 200W of power to print a page
[08:53]<svjzdsrrln>well I'm sorta forced to use the UPS as a power bar, cause my wiring in my house sucks and I get frequent power surges
[08:59]<vzyppym_hugvnz>Stormscape: heh well keep using it as long as you're happy with all your computers rebooting every time you use the printer, and the battery only lasting 19 seconds if there's a real outage
[09:01]<svjzdsrrln>that's why my printer is usualy unplugged
[09:01]<svjzdsrrln>with it unplugged I got 6 minutes of battery time with both computers on
[09:01]<svjzdsrrln>which won't be the case normaly
[09:19]<svjzdsrrln>well I'm screwed
[09:19]<svjzdsrrln>my printer is refusing to print
[09:56]<trffu>Erm. A friend of mine gave me some spare parts (socket a mobo, 1,8ghz ahtlon cpu, psu, case, 2gbit ddr, etc) but now when I've connected the psu to the mobo and the cases cords to the mobo (pwr, rset, etc) and try to turn it on, nothing happens. Should I expect it to be the psu or the mobo, since theres no post, and not even the psu has fans spinning, then again if it never gets the command from the mobo that'd also cause it
[09:57]<vzyppym_hugvnz>Tallu: if the psu doesn't turn on, its either dead or not plugged in, or your switch is dead or not plugged into the right place
[10:06]<trffu>Triffid_Hunter: so basically it could be eiher the mobo or the psu. just hope i had leds in the mobo so see if thats getting any power in the first place
[10:07]<vzyppym_hugvnz>Tallu: unplug the psu from the motherboard, and connect the green wire to any black wire with a paperclip or something. that should turn on the psu, which you can usually tell from the fan turning on
[10:07]<lsd`>Tallu: you have checked to make sure all the switches are correctly plugged in and whatnot? Sounds stupid, but it can be a real pita to get them all in properly
[10:07]<trffu>Triffid_Hunter: hmm ok
[10:08]<trffu>LSD`: yeah, I have.. I've built a lot of computers, just not from spare parts before so i havent had to really troubleshoot it like this, it seems something is broken in any case :P
[10:09]<vzyppym_hugvnz>Tallu: could simply be dirty contacts.. wipe 'em all down with an alcohol swab, see if it makes any difference
[10:09]<lsd`>Tallu: I've built plenty of computers too and making sure all the front panel switches and LEDs are hooked up properly is probably the single hardest part. I awlays check and double-check to make sure they're correct
[10:10]<trffu>Triffid_Hunter: Will do. :)
[10:10]<trffu>LSD`: yeah I've checked them a few times, I'll recheck though, after cleaning all the contacts
[10:10]<trffu>I really appeciate your help, both of you. Thanks. :)
[10:52]<mnznc_>What's the catalyst driver of ATi?
[10:53]<lsd`>?
[10:53]<vzyppym_hugvnz>money?
[10:54]<lsd`>'Catalyst' is just the name ATi give to their driver package, like nVidia had Detonator and now Fa^HorceWare
[10:54]<mnznc_>I see
[10:56]<mnznc_>Aren't there specific catalyst drivers for each model of ATi card?
[10:56]<mnznc_>I don't find so..
[10:57]<mnznc_>The driver that HP provided for my notebook states "TITLE: ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M
[10:57]<mnznc_>"
[10:57]<lsd`>no, the one package handles pretty much everything in theire more recent range
[10:58]<snlscy>derek_, verdonrs may adapt the drivers to make spesific drivers for each card they make. but ati only provide a driver package
[11:01]<mnznc_>what about the driver I got from HP/Compaq for the Ati Radeon I have? Did they custom make it by themselves?
[11:01]<vzyppym_hugvnz>derek_: they probably just branded the ati driver
[11:03]<mnznc_>So there's a common ATi driver for all ATi graphic cards?
[11:04]<lsd`>iirc, mobility Radeons were a different kettle of fish. That may have changed by now, I'm not sure
[11:11]<mnznc_>brb
[11:38]<mgrrmrgx>Hey guys (girls too? ^_^). I'm planing to upgrade my current PC and I need some advices...
[11:39]<vzyppym_hugvnz>nforce motherboard, nvidia gpu, amd 64 of some description, 1gb ram, western digital sata drive ;)
[11:40]<slcjd2>three different makes of SATA drives and then raid 5 them up!
[11:40]<lsd`>I'm not sure I'd consider AMD64 with Core 2 Duo on the horizon...
[11:40]<mgrrmrgx>wow, thanks Triffid_Hunter. I was actually going from AMD to Intel Pentium D :(
[11:41]<mgrrmrgx>But yes, gpu will always be nvidia :)
[11:41]<slcjd2>if I have three 250 GB drives and I want to run a software raid 5 per linux on them, how should I partition them up?
[11:41]<lsd`>Core 2 Duo looks like it'll outclass Athlon 64 and it'll fit the same mobos as Pentium D
[11:41]<slcjd2>can linux boot from a software raid?
[11:42]<vzyppym_hugvnz>SpComb: linux can, but the trouble is getting the kernel into memory first
[11:42]<mgrrmrgx>LSD`: it does sounds like a good investiment already, just to be able to upgrade it later to a Core Duo 2 then :)
[11:42]<vzyppym_hugvnz>SpComb: usually you'll have a small normal partition at the start of one or more drives that acts as a /boot partition.. raid 1 (mirror) works well for that one
[11:42]<slcjd2>I would have a RAID1 option on my mobo, I wonder if it can do per-partition raid?
[11:43]<slcjd2>indeed
[11:43]<slcjd2>I also heard that it's a good idea to split the drive in two and run two RAID 5:s across the drives
[11:43]<slcjd2>so a bad block won't take down the whole thing
[11:43]<slcjd2>and then raid 0 them up or whatever
[11:44]<slcjd2>the mobo I'm looking at is the Asus A8N-E
[11:44]<mgrrmrgx>Is that ok if I post my current machine and the specs for the machine I want to get here?
[11:44]<slcjd2>do you know if the raid on that can make a raid out of induvidual partitions?
[11:44]<slcjd2>or is it only per-disk
[11:44]<slcjd2>MegaManX: http://pastebin.ca/
[11:45]<lsd`>MegaManX: I'm still waiting for more widespread testing of the actual retail hardware. So far all I've seen are benchmarks on machines provided by Intel and the THG review which, like a lot of THG reviews, is probably biased as all fuck
[11:45]<slcjd2>THG?
[11:45]<lsd`>Toms Hardware Guide
[11:45]<slcjd2>hmm
[11:45]<mgrrmrgx>Current: AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (clocked at 2.2Ghz)
[11:45]<mgrrmrgx>1024 MB RAM PC3200 (400MHZ)
[11:45]<mgrrmrgx>Sound Blaster Audigy
[11:45]<mgrrmrgx>Nvidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB
[11:45]<slcjd2>bleh, never paste onto IRC
[11:46]<mgrrmrgx>Oops, sorry :)
[11:46]<slcjd2>pastebins > *
[11:46]<mgrrmrgx>I will give it a shot ;)
[11:46]<slcjd2>pastebin.com is even nicer, but it's been having problems recently :(
[11:46]<lsd`>pastebins are inconvenient both for the paster and pasteee
[11:46]<slcjd2>how so?
[11:46]<slcjd2>I find them really convenient
[11:47]<mgrrmrgx>http://pastebin.ca/90063
[11:47]<slcjd2>far more convenient than having to constantly scroll back and pick the parts of the paste from in between the other conversation
[11:47]<lsd`>having to page out to a web browser is a pita
[11:47]<mgrrmrgx>The upgraded PC has a worst GFx, but I plan to upgrade that in a near future.
[11:47]<slcjd2>not if you have two monitors :P
[11:47]<slcjd2>and it's not too much of a problem with one monitor either
[11:47]<lsd`>it's extra hassle
[11:48]<slcjd2>hmm, if I recall correctly, 7300 < 6600
[11:48]<slcjd2>not entirely sure
[11:48]<mgrrmrgx>7300 is compared to the 6200 series, I think :)
[11:48]<mgrrmrgx>thanks for checking the link btw ;)
[11:48]<slcjd2>well, the specs of it were worse than the 6600 series, from what I remember
[11:49]<slcjd2>hah, if I tell you to use a pastebin the least I can do is check it
[11:49]<slcjd2>so myes, about my raid... does anyone know if the raid controllers that come on mobos can support making a raid out of partitions?
[11:49]<slcjd2>I'm guessing no
[11:50]<lsd`>SpComb: Intel Matrix RAID can do something like that iirc, but that's probably only really supported on Windows
[11:50]<mgrrmrgx>I was thinking. If I invest money in this PC, will I be getting something better or slightly better? I heard a lot of good things about Intel Pentium D performance, how cool it runs and how good it is with overclocking, so...
[11:51]<slcjd2>hmm, well, pentium 4 was supposedly crap, dunno about the D

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