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[00:00]<zxrppp_>well glossy looks like glass, hmm. ok let's hope ant-glare doesn't look like that.
[00:00]<zxrppp_>anti-glare.
[01:00]<yddn-ndjsjf>'lo?
[01:00]<zzyffn>??
[01:00]<quzszzzyaxvnz>yesss?
[01:00]<yddn-ndjsjf>Anyone in here who knwo a lot about OLD motherboards?
[01:00]<quzszzzyaxvnz>sure
[01:00]<lzjpjx`>lol
[01:01]<quzszzzyaxvnz>I still have my supermicro socket7 from 10 years ago
[01:01]<yddn-ndjsjf>I've got an Asus TX97-E Rev. 1.12 and a MB-8500TVX-A Ver. 2.3
[01:01]<quzszzzyaxvnz>mint conditiopn in fact
[01:01]<quzszzzyaxvnz>not even dust
[01:01]<yddn-ndjsjf>Socket 7 those are. :)
[01:01]<pfd2rac>imme hi
[01:01]<quzszzzyaxvnz>yeah
[01:01]<pfd2rac>if you are more than 64 meg of ram on either of those
[01:01]<pfd2rac>you will take a 40-60% performance hit
[01:01]<yddn-ndjsjf>Which one of those would be less worse for serving as a server?
[01:02]<pfd2rac>what type server
[01:02]<quzszzzyaxvnz>and why use those boards atall..
[01:02]<yddn-ndjsjf>in the asus I can put two types of memory-modules, Is this able, to combine those two?
[01:02]<quzszzzyaxvnz>no.
[01:02]<yddn-ndjsjf>An easy to setup server.
[01:02]<pfd2rac>no you can't mix then
[01:02]<yddn-ndjsjf>Like apache.
[01:03]<yddn-ndjsjf>web-server...
[01:03]<pfd2rac>you don' want web on that
[01:03]<pfd2rac>you will take a 40-60% performance hit
[01:03]<pfd2rac>if you add mroe than 64 meg of ram
[01:03]<pfd2rac>actually
[01:03]<pfd2rac>the hit might not be much for static web pages
[01:04]<pfd2rac>where you live?
[01:04]<yddn-ndjsjf>And if I add only 64 MB Ram :S ?
[01:04]<quzszzzyaxvnz>still very slow
[01:04]<quzszzzyaxvnz>*very*
[01:04]<pfd2rac>richetr it might not be bad'
[01:04]<pfd2rac>for just small web
[01:04]<pfd2rac>if he doesn't use X and stuff
[01:05]<yddn-ndjsjf>No just terminal was my intention
[01:05]<pfd2rac>the Asus TX97-E would be better
[01:05]<yddn-ndjsjf>It's for local testing of php and so on...
[01:05]<pfd2rac>you can use sdram plus it has udma33
[01:05]<quzszzzyaxvnz>wish I had my old slot 1 board back.
[01:05]<quzszzzyaxvnz>use my p3 1ghz slot chip again.
[01:05]<quzszzzyaxvnz>oh well.
[01:06]<pfd2rac>richter mabye I can get you a board in the future
[01:06]<pfd2rac>we will see
[01:06]<pfd2rac>imme where are you ?
[01:06]<yddn-ndjsjf>@home
[01:06]<yddn-ndjsjf>:P
[01:06]<yddn-ndjsjf>Netherlands.
[01:06]<pfd2rac>what ciountry you stupid canuck
[01:06]<pfd2rac>ah
[01:06]<yddn-ndjsjf>lol
[01:06]<yddn-ndjsjf>why do you ask?
[01:06]<pfd2rac>well here in us
[01:07]<pfd2rac>people toss out p2's p3's and celerons by their trash cans all the time
[01:07]<yddn-ndjsjf>ah.
[01:07]<yddn-ndjsjf>here to maybe...
[01:07]<quzszzzyaxvnz>my last slot 1 board
[01:07]<quzszzzyaxvnz>was gigabyte 6bxu
[01:07]<yddn-ndjsjf>But i just go with what I got a.t.m.
[01:07]<quzszzzyaxvnz>it was an absolute tank.
[01:08]<pfd2rac>imme yeah but I am saying the PII actually the pentium pro which the p2 and p3 and pentium-m and core are based on
[01:08]<pfd2rac>is much better chip
[01:08]<srdddw>QuasarRichter, where can i find a hd format program that i can run from a floppy disk?
[01:08]<pfd2rac>pentium and pentium mmx were the last really cisc chip
[01:08]<yddn-ndjsjf>Is that socket 7 too?
[01:08]<pfd2rac>no
[01:08]<yddn-ndjsjf>Hmmm 2 bad.
[01:09]<pfd2rac>i'd mail you something if you lived closer
[01:09]<yddn-ndjsjf>so pentium mmx is better then penitum right?
[01:09]<yddn-ndjsjf>:P
[01:09]<yddn-ndjsjf>lol
[01:09]<pfd2rac>a little
[01:09]<quzszzzyaxvnz>a tiny bit
[01:09]<quzszzzyaxvnz>the extra l1 cache made a difference
[01:10]<pfd2rac>richter are you the one richter I knew from efnet?
[01:10]<yddn-ndjsjf>Uhm, linux doesn't like overclocking I heard. correct?
[01:10]<pfd2rac>imme not true
[01:11]<yddn-ndjsjf>Oh okay.
[01:11]<jjxggdq1|wjzc>anyone have experience setting up an MSI 865PE Neo 2 P mobo to boot from SATA??
[01:16]<pfd2rac>imme here's a tip
[01:17]<pfd2rac>boot memtest86+ on that pentium and let it run overnight before you install linux or anything
[01:17]<pfd2rac>will save u a lot of grief
[01:18]<yddn-ndjsjf>Yeah my current comp can't handle memtest
[01:18]<yddn-ndjsjf>:(
[01:18]<pfd2rac>wtf
[01:18]<pfd2rac>what do you mean
[01:19]<yddn-ndjsjf>Well the first time I ran it my pc shut down
[01:19]<pfd2rac>what cpu
[01:19]<yddn-ndjsjf>the second time it kept hanging at about 83 or 93 %
[01:19]<yddn-ndjsjf>AMD Sempron 3000+ If I'm not mistaken.
[01:19]<pfd2rac>oh
[01:19]<pfd2rac>you probably ram memtest86 instead of memtest86+
[01:19]<pfd2rac>you need the + for newer systems
[01:20]<yddn-ndjsjf>No I believe it said memtest86+
[01:20]<pfd2rac>mabye it just wasn't updated enough then
[01:20]<yddn-ndjsjf>I think that's standard on the ubuntu-cd... Isn't it?

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