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[00:03]<cnevner>it looks like it was originally part of a Dell machine
[00:03]<quzszzzyaxvnz>insufficient power
[00:03]<pfd2rac>oh dell psu then/delta
[00:04]<pfd2rac>watch out with dell
[00:04]<cnevner>I'm told this machine did run at some point in time
[00:04]<pfd2rac>they used to miswire the atx psu on purpose
[00:04]<pfd2rac>so you couldn't use non dell
[00:04]<cnevner>hmmm
[00:04]<pfd2rac>strip it
[00:04]<pfd2rac>take it down to bare motherboard and power supply
[00:05]<pfd2rac>see if it powers on
[00:05]<pfd2rac>then add stuff one by one
[00:05]<cnevner>k, hold on
[00:05]<pfd2rac>only for a few mins I have work to finish today :P
[00:07]<cnevner>no luck
[00:07]<cnevner>the yellow light on the mobo comes on
[00:07]<cnevner>but the board itself doesn't
[00:08]<pfd2rac>well duah you won't see any video without video card hooked up
[00:08]<pfd2rac>and cpu and ram
[00:08]<pfd2rac>or do you mean the power supply turns off
[00:08]<cnevner>power supply turns off
[00:08]<pfd2rac>ah
[00:09]<cnevner>when I unplug the fead between the board and psu then the psu stays on
[00:09]<pfd2rac>check to make sure the cmos reset jumper is in the right setting
[00:09]<pfd2rac>and reset the cmos
[00:09]<cnevner>where would I find that?
[00:09]<pfd2rac>usually by the batetry
[00:14]<quzszzzyaxvnz>damnit
[00:14]<quzszzzyaxvnz>I wish Sunny from Godfather lived..
[00:18]<slcjd2>hrmph
[00:18]<cnevner>ok, resetting the cmos didn't help
[00:18]<cnevner>and that clicking sound isn't the hard drive
[00:19]<slcjd2>I have a spindle full of half-bogus CD-Rs
[00:19]<slcjd2>cheap things that I bought about a year ago
[01:11]<pfd2rac>thank you God for saving my miserable ass again!
[01:45]<kuzv>fucking koreans
[01:45]<kuzv>in the last week, I have had 382 break-in attempts on my web server
[01:45]<kuzv>all but 25 have been from IP addresses assigned to organizations within South Korea
[01:46]<slcjd2>or it's the billion america script kiddies infectign machines all over the world
[01:46]<slcjd2>*american
[01:57]<mfy>Kurt, it's more alarming, if it's from north korea :)
[01:58]<mfy>Kurt, however, it's quite possible, someone else hacked those korean boxes and used them to launch the attack
[01:59]<kuzv>that's also possible
[01:59]<kuzv>but, unless the South Koreans aren't very security-conscious
[02:00]<kuzv>there shouldn't be such a large proportion from that one country
[02:00]<mfy>Kurt, our 64 cpu cluster was once rooted, and used in DoS attacks
[02:01]<mfy>Kurt, unless it's DoS type of attacking, it's quite difficult for the monitoring people to pick up
[02:09]<kuzv>you're missing the point
[02:43]<ryprrp>what would you choose for a P4 between a 2.8Ghz P4-511 or a 2.66Ghz Pentium D dual core?
[02:44]<hegvryxp>dual
[02:47]<mwcvmmumn>same dual core.. im actually purchasing a 3.06 p4 right now with a mobo since my last mobo died :(
[02:48]<mwcvmmumn>i have a hyperthreaded p4 in my laptop and find it blazing fast so i can just imagine what a dual core will be like
[02:51]<mfy>mxktmdude, dual core is not ht, you can have dual core, and ht, making 4 logical cpus
[02:52]<byve>hi, is this a good time of the year to buy laptop or should i wait awhile?
[02:53]<mfy>Bitz, I'm waiting, so I can buy one with merom :)
[02:54]<mfy>Bitz, even if you don't want merom, price cuts expected for core duo/turion, when merom released
[02:54]<byve>merom?
[02:54]<byve>is that a the next gen cpu?
[02:55]<mfy>Bitz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2
[02:55]<mfy>Bitz, the current intel core duo is already faster than amd turion
[02:56]<byve>when will that be out and will it be availiable on laptop?
[02:56]<byve>i mean the merom
[02:56]<mfy>Bitz, conroe for desktop will be released tomorrow, merom later in Agust
[02:57]<mfy>s/Agust/August/
[02:58]<byve>i am thinking of getting a slim ibm thinkpad. is that a good laptop?
[02:58]<mfy>Bitz, it's good, lenovo seems to be reducing linux support
[02:59]<byve>it duo 1.66 with 100g sata 7200 rpm 2g of ram for about $2.3
[03:00]<mfy>Bitz, as I said, you expect price cut with merom comming
[03:00]<byve>how long do i need to wait?
[03:01]<byve>i gess after august
[03:01]<mwcvmmumn>dli, no i have hyperthread in my laptop, im ordering dual core and from what i understand about them, dual core is much better than hyperthread since its 2 active processors than just one
[03:01]<mwcvmmumn>so thats what i meant, sorry for the confussion
[03:02]<mfy>mxktmdude, I just mean each core can still do ht
[03:02]<mfy>Bitz, understandable, amd has to do price cut with merom pending, so it may happen earlier
[03:02]<mwcvmmumn>oh is that? wow i didnt know that, thats cool!
[03:03]<mwcvmmumn>merom is that megnetic rom?
[03:04]<mfy>mxktmdude, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2
[03:05]<mfy>mxktmdude, if you are not in China :)
[03:05]<byve>i just got myself a 60g ipod now iam short in cash so i will have to wait for the price cut on ibm thinkpad ;)
[03:05]<mwcvmmumn>lol yes just reading it now.. reason i thought it was megnetic ram was that i read an article about it on the weekend.. and it sounded pretty impressive
[03:07]<dnznac>what is that website that takes screenshots of your webpage in different browsers?
[03:07]<mfy>mxktmdude, never saw "me" stands for magnetic :(
[03:09]<mwcvmmumn>i wondered why the word megnetic just didnt look right
[03:12]<mfy>mxktmdude, the other way, "EM" stands for ElectroMagnetic
[03:16]<mwcvmmumn>do you have a dual core right now or have experience with it?
[03:16]<byve>i think i will get a merom for additional 20% performance over core duo. how much more will it costs?
[03:17]<mfy>Bitz, I expect the same price as the current core duo
[03:17]<byve>cool
[03:17]<mfy>Bitz, just my guess, but I think if it's much more expensive than core duo, then, AMD will enjoy people buying turion X2
[03:18]<ryprrp>thanks for the dual core advice, will go grab one and try it out
[03:19]<mfy>Bitz, the same thing, amd64, dual core, but turion X2 has higher TDP ( > 30W)
[03:32]<byve>ok, i definitly would go with amd64 for a desktop or server system.
[03:35]<mfy>Bitz, just keep in mind, intel conroe is still amd64 :)
[03:36]<byve>ic, i heard conroe is that good.
[03:39]<byve>i wonder if i should get a tempest2150 dual duo core amd64 with 3ware raid from penguincomputing.com for a home server.
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