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[00:00]<usnz6qt>well the power doesnt drop that much but it goes up and down alot and does spike alot
[00:00]<usnz6qt>im thinking of having them invest in a UPS
[00:00]<pfd2rac>or just a good surge protector :P
[00:00]<usnz6qt>yeah that too
[00:01]<pfd2rac>you want a list of good psu's ?
[00:01]<usnz6qt>sure
[00:02]<usnz6qt>now if i can figure out my pc, evertime its taken apart it wont boot and i have to wiggle wires or smack the case to get it to power up
[00:02]<pfd2rac>http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/Power_Supply_Unit
[00:02]<pfd2rac>user
[00:02]<pfd2rac>cracked solder joint
[00:02]<pfd2rac>bbl feel free to come here any time
[00:02]<usnz6qt>probably on the motherboard
[00:03]<usnz6qt>yeah i will this is a good irc room
[00:25]<j_p>hi all
[00:26]<x2yv-mvx>beh: they could well be, depending on what it was that killed the motherboard in the first place.
[00:31]<czrdlyus>which is better? Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2700 2.33GHz 2MB Cache 667MHz FSB or Intel® Pentium® 4 670 Desktop Processor w/ HT Technology 3.8GHz 800MHz FSB 2MB ?
[00:32]<x2yv-mvx>Better for what?
[00:33]<czrdlyus>for being ... better
[00:33]<czrdlyus>faster. able to handle me doing a million things at once.. like rendering songs while run wow in the bg and use photoshop
[00:33]<czrdlyus>who knows
[00:34]<x2yv-mvx>Well the Pentium 670 then.
[00:34]<x2yv-mvx>Neither are particularly fantastic choices really, I wonder why you chose them...
[00:35]<czrdlyus>for a laptop?
[00:35]<x2yv-mvx>You never specified that. Well yes for a laptop, if you don't mind the fact it runs really hot and uses a heck of a lot of power.
[00:35]<x2yv-mvx>In fact even in desktop machines P4 3.8 tends to throttle back
[00:36]<j_p>hey people, I have one motherboard ( http://www.lex.com.tw:8080/product/SV823A.htm ) with four I/O. I would like know how I do for my O.S (linux 2.6) works with hardware interrupt in this DIO ?
[00:36]<czrdlyus>hrm
[00:37]<czrdlyus>does dual core 2.33 mean its two 2.33 mhz cpuz?
[00:37]<czrdlyus>i mean ghz
[00:37]<x2yv-mvx>Yes.
[00:38]<j_p>anyone can help me ?
[00:38]<x2yv-mvx>For a laptop, the Core Duo is the easy choice.
[00:38]<czrdlyus>but the fsb
[00:38]<czrdlyus>isnt as much
[00:38]<czrdlyus>that looks like the only downside
[00:38]<x2yv-mvx>No, well, there you go.
[00:39]<x2yv-mvx>It won't really make that much difference.
[00:39]<czrdlyus>its 667 and the p4 is 800
[00:39]<x2yv-mvx>In fact if anything it's the P4 whose FSB is not enough
[00:39]<czrdlyus>how so if its 800 and the dual is 667?
[00:40]<x2yv-mvx>The processors are not exactly the same design. P4 requires more bandwidth than the Core Duo to yield acceptable performance.
[00:40]<czrdlyus>ahh
[00:44]<czrdlyus>damn the new dual cores are 2.93ghz with 1.6ghz fsb and 4mb L2 cache
[00:44]<x2yv-mvx>Yes, they are extremely fast.
[00:45]<x2yv-mvx>Actually it's 1.06GHz FSB, not 1.6GHz
[00:45]<czrdlyus>and i bet there is no way in hell im gonna get that in any sort of notebook
[00:45]<knrf>haha imbeciles!
[00:45]<knrf>:P
[00:45]<knrf>kidding
[00:45]<x2yv-mvx>Core 2 is really designed for desktops at this stage but there will be a mobile Core 2 later on
[00:45]<knrf>i figured out what was wrong with my dns
[00:45]<x2yv-mvx>It certainly doesn't use all that much power anyway.
[00:46]<czrdlyus>hm
[00:46]<knrf>guess why my dns wasnt working
[00:47]<knrf>guess why my dns wasnt working
[00:47]<x2yv-mvx>A pizza got stuck in the disk drive?
[00:47]<knrf>no
[00:47]<x2yv-mvx>I'm out of guesses then.
[00:48]<knrf>my mom disabled all the netmeeting ports in the router
[00:49]<knrf>again
[00:51]<knrf>i thought my firmware needed a reset :P
[01:01]<czrdlyus>i was in the middle of upgrading the firmware in my router yesterday which is a very short process and all the sudden the power went out to my house.. router destroyed
[01:20]<czrdlyus>crap, the intel duos they offer for these lappys arent 64bit
[02:01]<nwljsn>hi
[02:01]<quzszzzyaxvnz>hi
[02:02]<nwljsn>just curious - is E6600 conroe available in USA yet? First E6300s beginn to ship here now.
[02:02]<nwljsn>oh - here is europe
[02:02]<quzszzzyaxvnz>sorta
[02:02]<nwljsn>pre-orders only, or actually available?
[02:03]<quzszzzyaxvnz>shop for it
[02:03]<quzszzzyaxvnz>www.newegg.com
[02:03]<nwljsn>thanks.
[02:04]<nwljsn>Does anyone know how if it is correct that with the same cooling solution (some coolers are available for AM2 and 775) the 2-duo is colder than a x2?
[02:05]<nwljsn>I found this info in a serious looking (not the usual gamer-shit) review here: http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/print.php?cid=2&id=1984
[02:05]<quzszzzyaxvnz>swell
[02:08]<quzszzzyaxvnz>I am sticking with amd anyway
[02:09]<nwljsn>I would have done that too, if those guys wouldnt have cancled the 2x 1MB l2-cache version of the x2
[02:09]<nwljsn>which is shere....well. i dunno what. surprising - as intel doesnt seem to have any problems with doing 1x 4MB l2-cache
[02:10]<quzszzzyaxvnz>so
[02:11]<nwljsn>so what?
[02:11]<quzszzzyaxvnz>uh
[02:12]<quzszzzyaxvnz>amd DOES have a smp processor
[02:12]<quzszzzyaxvnz>wioth 1mb caches
[02:12]<quzszzzyaxvnz>its right on newegg.com
[02:12]<quzszzzyaxvnz>for sale
[02:12]<nwljsn>for am2?
[02:13]<quzszzzyaxvnz>no 939
[02:13]<nwljsn>Ah.
[02:13]<quzszzzyaxvnz>but no basic peformance differfence between am2 and 939
[02:13]<nwljsn>Then newegg has those still in stock
[02:13]<quzszzzyaxvnz>ah ha!
[02:13]<nwljsn>according to the latest OEM pricelists no more 1mb versions are available to be sold.
[02:13]<quzszzzyaxvnz>heres one for am2
[02:13]<quzszzzyaxvnz>you need to search better
[02:14]<quzszzzyaxvnz>has 1mb caches
[02:14]<quzszzzyaxvnz>its 'dual core;
[02:14]<quzszzzyaxvnz>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103739
[02:14]<nwljsn>4000+ windsor







