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[00:00]<szzzz_>akano1n:
[00:00]<szzzz_>No
[00:00]<rcrgjwg>i have tested, and there is only one way to plug in
[00:00]<szzzz_>Plug it in that way and it will work too
[00:00]<rcrgjwg>ok, thanks, its the new EATX, right ?
[00:00]<pfd2rac>yes it is a problem
[00:01]<pfd2rac>unless your motherboard also has a small 4 pin connector and your power supply does also
[00:01]<szzzz_>Yeah
[00:02]<rcrgjwg>flyback are you saying that 12V 4 pins, right? im saying about mobo power connector, 24 pins
[00:02]<szzzz_>The 24 pin is actually a 20 pin with 4 extra pins on it
[00:02]<pfd2rac>yes
[00:02]<pfd2rac>24 pin is so you don't need the seperate +4
[00:02]<pfd2rac>but some boards will let yuo run a +20 and a +4 also
[00:02]<szzzz_>Um
[00:03]<szzzz_>flyback: my mobo has a 24 pin connector, a 6 pin connector, AND a 4 pin connector on the mobo
[00:03]<pfd2rac>+6 is for pci-e afaik
[00:03]<szzzz_>akano1n: Does your motherboard have a 20 pin power connector and a 4 pin extra power rail connector?
[00:03]<rcrgjwg>let me see if i get it right, my power supply has, 20pins and 4pins connector, this 4pin is a plug side-by-side to CPU
[00:04]<pfd2rac>yes
[00:04]<rcrgjwg>that remaining 4 pins on 24pins mobo connector, is that 4 pins?
[00:04]<pfd2rac>you put the +20 where the +24 is
[00:04]<pfd2rac>and you put the +4 where the +4 is by the cpu
[00:04]<rcrgjwg>yes, so its wrong if i plug an 24 pins + 4pins
[00:04]<hu299w>hi!
[00:04]<szzzz_>Hi Hub
[00:05]<pfd2rac>yeah you don't plug the +4 by the +20
[00:05]<hu299w>how can i find out wether i have a p4-prescott or not?
[00:05]<hu299w>2,4GHz no HT
[00:05]<rcrgjwg>ohhh.. i see.. if i bought a power supply with 24pins, there is no 4pins extra to plug side-by-side to CPU, right?
[00:05]<pfd2rac>usually no, correct
[00:05]<szzzz_>akano1n: Bottom line, if you have the 20 pin and 4 pin on your mobo, they both need to be plugged in. If your PSU only has a 24 pin without the other 4 pin connector, you're going ot need an adapter. If you have a 24 pin connector and an extra 4 pin connector on your PSU, you should plug both of them in
[00:06]<hu299w>hmm and the CPU has 512KB cache, thats all i know about it
[00:06]<pfd2rac>hub
[00:06]<pfd2rac>what os
[00:06]<hu299w>gentoo
[00:06]<pfd2rac>cat /proc/cpuinfo :P
[00:06]<hu299w>cpufamily 15
[00:06]<hu299w>flyback: i know, but it doesn't tell me the core-type
[00:07]<pfd2rac>you will have to play with google
[00:07]<pfd2rac>see if you can find a chart
[00:07]<pfd2rac>that tells you what it means
[00:07]<hu299w>actually i have no browser. system istn't finished so far ( no Xserver running, its still compiling)
[00:07]<rcrgjwg>i see, Sarra_, 24pins without 4pin, i need a adapter that will get me the another 4pin i need to plugin side-by-side to the CPU, right, now i get it, i have to connect everything
[00:08]<pfd2rac>akano1n
[00:08]<pfd2rac>just plug the +20 into the +24 socket
[00:08]<pfd2rac>and plug the +4 from your psu into the +4 socket that is usually by the cpu
[00:08]<rcrgjwg>ok =P
[00:09]<pfd2rac>bbl
[00:11]<slcjd2>building a raid1 takes a long time :/
[00:12]<slcjd2>I --create:d a new raid 1 on two 200 GB disks and it's takeing ages to build
[00:12]<2zyac>make sure DMA is on
[00:13]<slcjd2>--------------- drive0 --------- drive1 -------- drive0 ---------- drive1 ------
[00:13]<slcjd2>DMA enabled: yes yes yes yes
[00:13]<slcjd2>UDMA enabled: yes yes yes yes
[00:13]<slcjd2>appears to be
[00:13]<slcjd2>[===>.................] resync = 19.5% (38107776/195360896) finish=215.5min speed=12153K/sec
[00:14]<pfd2rac>also
[00:14]<pfd2rac>don't put 2 drives on the same cable
[00:14]<pfd2rac>it's a major performance hit
[00:14]<slcjd2>heh, as a matter of fact, I think the two are on the same cable
[00:14]<slcjd2>need to change that sometime
[00:14]<slcjd2>"it's just the backup server, it can wait until tomorrow"
[00:15]<szzzz_>Hmm
[00:15]<slcjd2>can I abort the build and go reboot it now?
[00:15]<slcjd2>and will it continue where it left off when I boot up again?
[00:15]<szzzz_>Yeah
[00:15]<szzzz_>No
[00:15]<szzzz_>Are you doing hardware or software raid?
[00:15]<slcjd2>software
[00:15]<szzzz_>Do you have a hardware RAID option available?
[00:15]<slcjd2>I just mdadm --create'd it
[00:15]<slcjd2>Sarra_: nope
[00:15]<szzzz_>Okay
[00:16]<szzzz_>Well, just FYI, software RAID is going to be a lot slower than hardware RAID, especially a RAID 1
[00:16]<slcjd2>from what I recall, software raid isn't really that much slower...
[00:16]<slcjd2>if not faster
[00:17]<slcjd2>well, from what I've read
[00:17]<slcjd2>dunno about RAID1
[00:17]<szzzz_>Reading and writing to RAID 1 is going to use a lot of CPU, hardware RAID uses a controller on the board, so the CPU doesn't have to manage the data copy
[00:17]<slcjd2>I'm not going to believe that until I see it
[00:18]<slcjd2>and this computer actually has two cpus (some 300Mhz ones)
[00:18]<szzzz_>Well, wait... You're using LInux, right?
[00:18]<slcjd2>400Mhz
[00:18]<slcjd2>yes
[00:18]<szzzz_>Okay, that makes a big difference
[00:19]<szzzz_>If you can get the drives on different channels, then you should be able to set it up faster
[00:19]<slcjd2>mmh, need to do that sometime
[00:19]<szzzz_>Also, if you have a CD or DVD drive connected to the same channel as a harddrive, disconnect it until you're done
[00:20]<szzzz_>The CD drive will slow down that entire channel on some older motherboards
[00:20]<slcjd2>it's an old motherboard :)
[00:20]<slcjd2>Intel PIIX4 Ultra 33 Chipset.
[00:20]<slcjd2>I guess that means ATA/33
[00:20]<szzzz_>Is it a Tyan dual slot1?
[00:20]<pfd2rac>actually
[00:20]<slcjd2>it's some old leftover
[00:20]<szzzz_>Oh, it's a quad board?
[00:21]<pfd2rac>the cd won't slow down the system unless it and the other device are accessed at the same time
[00:21]<szzzz_>Oh, true
[00:21]<slcjd2>no, just two slots
[00:21]<slcjd2>not actually looked at it

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