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[17:05]<pzzxvd>thats is not the only ip, may be quiet for a month or two and then a few Gibabytes are downloaded from different ips
[17:06]<mnzmzjjv>is that the established pattern that you noticed over the months, or is that just a guess?
[17:06]<pzzxvd>pattern, worst has been 5.87Gig on a single 40Kilobyte picture
[17:06]<mnzmzjjv>ouch
[17:07]<znmmnzs>what? :|
[17:08]<znmmnzs>lol, what are you talking about fgrhty, i should idle more, then i wouldn't get confused! :P
[17:08]<-- svgvsdyzgjvr xrs>/dev/null")
[17:08]<mnzmzjjv>redders: somebody's leeching his/her images
[17:09]<znmmnzs>ah
[17:09]<znmmnzs>bastards
[17:10]<znmmnzs>how can leeching be prevented other than changing file names regularly?
[17:11]<mnzmzjjv>checking for referrers, or blocking the ip address of the offender
[17:12]<mnzmzjjv>fgrhty: does the offender has a UA string?
[17:12]<pzzxvd>you have lost me
[17:14]<mnzmzjjv>fgrhty: your server logs. does it say that the leecher is using a browser? or something else? it's probably a false herring, but still could be useful
[17:14]<mnzmzjjv>s/false/red
[17:15]<pzzxvd>broswers vary sometimes mozilla, sometimes windows NT
[17:15]<pzzxvd>I have a javascript that should fix the problem, but it is not executing on redirection
[17:16]<mnzmzjjv>how about referrers?
[17:16]<pzzxvd>anybody hotlinking should be redirected via htaccess to the js file containing the alternative image, it works in a stand alone browser, but doesn't work from the server
[17:17]<pzzxvd>I have already tried referrs redirection, lasted for a few weeks and then it started again
[17:17]<mnzmzjjv>why did it resume?
[17:19]<pzzxvd>have no idea
[17:21]<mnzmzjjv>perhaps you should try to find out why it isn't working. if it's just normal image leeching (like used in forums), then most of the visitors shouldn't be masking their referers and should be redirected as expected
[17:22]<znmmnzs>why on earth do people leach? it's not like cheap hosting isn't out there
[17:22]<mnzmzjjv>ignorance? not all forumers are aware that it isn't good manners to leech
[17:23]<znmmnzs>but when it's 6GB for a single image it seems like it's more than just that :S unless it's one hell of a busy forum
[17:24]<mnzmzjjv>and that isn't impossible, since fgrhty hasn't mentioned anything about where the leechers are referred from
[17:24]<pzzxvd>well they did ask if they could link to some of my pictures directly, I refused and then the leeching started
[17:25]<mnzmzjjv>bad people
[17:26]<pzzxvd>one of the main culprits are myspace.com
[17:26]<rfrnnm>haha, i was thinking that
[17:26]<pzzxvd>looks like they have reciprocal links to my images to several forums
[17:26]<rfrnnm>people on myspace are always looking a bandwidth handout
[17:27]<rfrnnm>how long did i host "thank heaven for little girls" for my friend
[17:27]<mnzmzjjv>1 day?
[17:27]<rfrnnm>haha, too too long
[17:28]<mnzmzjjv>1 minute?
[17:28]<mnzmzjjv>:)
[17:28]<rfrnnm>i guess i like how myspace gets people into html
[17:28]<rfrnnm>otherwise they wouldn't care about it at all
[17:29]<znmmnzs>yeah, but is there really a need for the whole world to know HTML?
[17:30]<mnzmzjjv>`html select
[17:30]<rtfs>html select: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-SELECT
[17:30]<rfrnnm>no, i guess not...it just feels good when people start using something after years of thinking you're a geek for it
[17:31]<rfrnnm>kind of like when lord of the rings movies came out
[17:31]<rfrnnm>i was told all my life that stuff was cheesy!
[17:32]<mnzmzjjv>and then all the girls starts to go gooey at the sight of the men. ewwww
[17:33]<rfrnnm>damn hobbits
[17:34]<znmmnzs>lol, yeah, i guess :P although the geekier it is the more you can charge for it ;)
[17:35]<rfrnnm>yeah, i wish i was into this stuff back in the 90's, that seemed like the fine time
[17:43]<edrw>hey, I know its bad practice to use table for layout, but I am only using 2 tables with 2 columns each. How do you make a table extend to the bottom of a page, because right now it stops once the text does.
[18:10]<rfrnnm>zmax: do you always want the table to have 100% or is that just the minimum?
[18:10]<rfrnnm>100% height
[18:17]<rfrnnm>ohh, he had left
[18:17]<rfrnnm>OOPS
[19:03]<svjzd2znzcnz>Anyone awake in here?
[19:03]<zjpj>yup
[19:04]<svjzd2znzcnz>I want a _complete_ list of informations I can gather when a person visits my website.
[19:14]<zznrl>hey guys, can you help me out with a file-name escaping problem?
[19:14]<zznrl><img src="thumbnails__/V for Vendetta #03 Page 03.jpg" />
[19:15]<zznrl>what would be the correct way to have that written?
[19:16]<znzjs>thumbnails__/V%20for%20Vendetta%20%2303%20Page%2003.jpg
[19:16]<znzjs>%20 for space, %23 for #
[19:18]<zznrl>yep, that's what I thought
[19:18]<zznrl>but ruby's CGI::escape method is generating 'thumbnails__%2FV+for+Vendetta+%2303+Page+00a.jpg'
[19:20]<znzjs>00a?
[19:20]<znzjs>why it it convert 03 into 00a :P
[19:20]<zznrl>oops, different link >.>
[19:21]<znzjs>sometimes software uses + instead of %20 because its easier for a user to read and understand
[19:21]<zznrl>but it should still work right?
[19:22]<znzjs>nomad411, you'd need to manually do a replace in your application
[19:22]<znzjs>err
[19:22]<znzjs>no*
[19:22]<znzjs>the only time I'd use + is if it was something like /image?get=foobar+baz+bam.png
[19:22]<znzjs>an argument, if its a straight url use %20
[19:22]<zznrl>well that's a pain, are there any other characters that happenes with?
[19:23]<znzjs>not that I know of
[19:23]<znzjs>+ is just by convention
[19:23]<znzjs>not part of any standard :)
[19:28]<zznrl>hmm, maybe it's just firefox changing the output, because I just tested it and it seems fine on the command line
[19:34]<aaffyga>hi
[19:35]<zjpj>'lo
[19:46]<jscyn>is there a way to make mozilla not display the I mouse cursor over a certain piece of text? I'm already using -moz-user-select: none;
[19:51]<jscyn>is it possible to handle Right Mouse Button click?
[19:55]<mnzmzjjv>oskie: you can control the cursor image
[19:55]<mnzmzjjv>`css cursor @ oskie
[19:55]<rtfs>oskie, css cursor: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/ui.html#propdef-cursor
[19:55]<jscyn>thank you deadroot!
[19:58]<aaffyga>question: is <b> allowed in xhtml or should it be raplaced with <strong>?
[20:00]<mnzmzjjv>the <b> element says that the text content must be bold. thus it is a presentational element
[20:02]<mnzmzjjv>you could use css to redefine the <b> to display the content differently, say underlined and italicised but not bold. however the visual rendering wouldn't match up with the name of the tag
[20:02]<mnzmzjjv>that is why <strong> is recommended
[20:03]<mnzmzjjv>it says nothing about how to visually present the content, only that the text content is to be emphasised strongly, usually in bold
[20:05]<jscyn>i need to find the element at some X,Y coordinate (from an Event)..
[20:06]<aaffyga>deadroot: thanks. in tis case i am not abled to use css. so i will rather use <strong>
[20:07]<mnzmzjjv>oskie: are you sure that you can only use the x,y coordinates?
[20:07]<mnzmzjjv>`html b
[20:07]<rtfs>html b: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/present/graphics.html#edef-B
[20:08]<mnzmzjjv>`html strong

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