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[17:37]<djjpyus>hello
[17:37]<[rfrj]>hi
[17:38]<djjpyus>what is the best way to do: "rik said: bla bla bla"
[17:38]<djjpyus>blockquote I know, but the other?
[17:38]<[rfrj]>http://rafb.net/paste/results/76AWw266.html
[17:38]<[rfrj]>how can I put 2 divs into 2 columns
[17:38]<[rfrj]>left div has fixed length, right and container are not fixed
[17:46]<[rfrj]>seems I got it
[17:51]<erfrfjvvr>hi
[17:53]<erfrfjvvr>is there any way to create something like a footnote which is on the bottom of a browser when the content is shorter than the content length, but moves to the bottom of the content if you have to scroll?
[17:53]<erfrfjvvr>because if I use bottom: 0px, it works as long as the content fits in one page but overlaps the content as soon as there is more content
[17:53]<erfrfjvvr>OTOH I don't want to use a table if there's another possibility
[18:03]<kyv-krv>hi all
[18:03]<kyv-krv>www.tzitut.com/V2
[18:03]<kyv-krv>why is the text not aligned with the bars?
[18:03]<kyv-krv>they are both the same style in the style.css
[18:55]<djjpyus>how to do a quote in html?
[18:56]<gzznvxzdzds>"
[18:57]<djjpyus>...
[18:57]<gzznvxzdzds>hold down shift, and press your '2' key?
[18:57]<gzznvxzdzds>or would you like to ask your question in a more specific way?
[18:57]<djjpyus>I know <blockquote>, but how to specify a person that the quote is from?
[18:57]<znzjs>well there is a <q> element which semantically means quote, and allows the quote marks to be locale specific
[18:58]<znzjs>but browser support for <q> is rather flaky
[19:00]<znzjs>moofius, there's no special way in terms of markup for that, choose your format (MLA,APA,etc.), I suppose you could use <cite> as well with the format of your choice
[19:00]<gzznvxzdzds>browser support for <q> is fine. Browser support for the CSS to render the :before and :after suggested as the default for <q> is flaky
[19:01]<djjpyus>I have <blockquote><p><cite>Zeros skrev:</cite></p><p>bla bla bla</p><p>bli</p></blockquote>
[19:01]<grgj2jv>"browser support for <q> is fine" I very much disagree
[19:02]<djjpyus>but I do not realy like that way
[19:02]<grgj2jv><q> is effectively unusable right now due to IE's incorrect support
[19:02]<grgj2jv>The HTML spec (not just the CSS spec) says the <q> must be displayed surrounded by quotes
[19:02]<grgj2jv>So no, IE doesn't support the <q> element correctly
[19:02]<gzznvxzdzds>wrong
[19:02]<gzznvxzdzds>it's a 'should'
[19:02]<gzznvxzdzds>although I'm not sticking up for IE specifically
[19:03]<grgj2jv>"Visual user agents must ensure that the content of the Q element is rendered with delimiting quotation marks."
[19:03]<gzznvxzdzds>oh
[19:03]<gzznvxzdzds>inore me
[19:03]<grgj2jv>It's a must
[19:03]<grgj2jv>And IE is the only major browser that gets this wrong
[19:03]<grgj2jv>IE7 also gets it wrong
[19:35]<2dcvn>so FF isnt a major browser?
[19:35]<2dcvn>good to hear that :D
[19:54]<vgzg>hey all. does anyone know what the story is with css and scrollbars?
[19:55]<vgzg>i know you can control them in iexplore but who wants to do that?
[19:56]<dzmzaivnz>Could you be more specific?
[19:57]<dzmzaivnz>You can use overflow attributes to put scrollbars on a div when neccesary. Is that what you mean?
[20:28]<crmjs>is there a way to get a checkbox to return a 1/0 value instead of a on/off value?
[20:28]<gzznvxzdzds>checkboxes never return an 'off' value
[20:29]<gzznvxzdzds>they return the value="" of the <input>, or 'on' if there isn't a value
[20:29]<crmjs>gotcha, thanks
[21:24]<zfzazdvd>can someone please look at this and tell me what im doing wrong? my db doesnt get updated: http://pastebin.com/756048
[21:29]<gzznvxzdzds>did you mean to ask that in #html?
[21:32]<zfzazdvd>no
[21:32]<zfzazdvd>its pastebin
[21:32]<zfzazdvd>u paste your code there
[21:32]<zfzazdvd>oop
[21:32]<zfzazdvd>s
[21:32]<zfzazdvd>lol
[21:32]<zfzazdvd>my bad
[21:33]<zfzazdvd>sorry
[21:33]<zfzazdvd>god that was embarrassing
[22:57]<vgzg>DRMacIver: i'm talking about style attributes such as colour and so on
[23:16]<rrrm>i have a table that is <center><table width="170"><tr><td></td></tr> </center> and it shifts depending on how long the page is, why is that?
[23:22]<aeujs00w>j #web
[23:29]<sugsxdgnlrmd>Hello
[23:31]<sugsxdgnlrmd>The validator says <embed> is undefined, i took the way e3schools.com says but it still gives an error... why?
[23:31]<gzznvxzdzds>because w3schools doesn't promote valid markup
[23:42]<vgzg>anyone know if any non-iexplore browsers can be forced to allow scrollbar styles
[23:42]<vgzg>colours, etc?

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