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[00:25]<fqwn2syvn> how do i get info grabed from an sql query to scroll .... marquee doesnt work
[00:26]<zrrnvxd>javascript...
[00:28]<dsycdr>Hi all. Is <small> deprecated in XHTML 1.0 Transitional?
[00:28]<dsycdr>I think it isn't in HTML 4, but I'm not sure about XHTML 1.0.
[00:29]<eyaexj>Sounds like it should be...
[00:29]<eyaexj>The tag name describes it's visual effect.
[00:29]<eyaexj>Which is bad to use, whether it's deprecated or not.
[00:29]<eyaexj>(Probably is though)
[00:30]<dsycdr>Because there's a <small> tag in a Wikipedia page somewhere, which is XHTML 1.0 Transitional, but it still validates. A different Wikipedia page also validated even when it had a <font> tag on it, so I think that maybe the HTML isn't being read properly when trying to validate.
[00:30]<eyaexj>Can I see the pages?
[00:30]<eyaexj>And transitional.. is bad to use anyway.
[00:30]<eyaexj>Actually, yeah-- I doubt that they'd validate as strict.
[00:30]<dsycdr>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_done_Quick
[00:31]<dsycdr>The <small> is used for the footnotes right after the big table.
[00:32]<rflxr>wikipedia is a non-resource
[00:32]<eyaexj>Hmm.. forcing XHTML strict only introduces one error..
[00:33]<eyaexj>`doctype xhtml
[00:33]<eyaexj>`doctype xhtml strict
[00:33]<eyaexj>`doctype xhtml1.0
[00:33]<dsycdr>Guys at #mediawiki just said that <font> and <small> are valid, but still widely believed to be obsolete
[00:34]<eyaexj>Tjat
[00:34]<eyaexj>**That sounds about right.
[00:34]<rflxr>font is invalid with strict isn't it?
[00:35]<eyaexj>Font's not valid.
[00:35]<eyaexj>`xhtml small
[00:35]<fqzzvncnnlnzs>I would like information on how to get an sql query to scroll the marquee tag does not work for this instance ... this would be of great help even if its not a php tag thank you for listening
[00:35]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>hi guys
[00:35]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>I need some help
[00:35]<eyaexj>Anyway, small should still be avoided for above reasons.
[00:36]<rflxr>i've never used small in my life anyway
[00:36]<dsycdr>Yeah, I'll turn it into a span instead.
[00:36]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>http://dust2.mine.nu/webmin/index.php - see the "blue" things around the logo? how do i remove it?
[00:36]<dsycdr>I initially thought that <small> was a special MediaWiki markup code.
[00:36]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>Anyone ?
[00:36]<eyaexj>QPAD|war-away: a img { border: none; }
[00:36]<rflxr>border="0"
[00:36]<eyaexj>No!
[00:37]<eyaexj>Deprecated attribute!
[00:37]<eyaexj>!v http://dust2.mine.nu/webmin/index.php
[00:37]<rtfs>HTML: Not valid - Errors: 11, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://dust2.mine.nu/webmin/index.php
[00:37]<rtfs>CSS: Not valid - Error: 1, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://dust2.mine.nu/webmin/index.php
[00:37]<eyaexj>That's not good..
[00:37]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>? :(
[00:37]<rflxr>*sigh*
[00:37]<eyaexj>`table stupid
[00:37]<rtfs>table stupid: http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/everything.html
[00:37]<rflxr>strict doesn't have to be used
[00:37]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>I could show you the index.php file im using
[00:37]<eyaexj>Well, it should be.
[00:37]<eyaexj>And use <label> tags.
[00:37]<rflxr>well we don't live in a utopia do we
[00:38]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>Sorry, Im not familiar with php/html, just trying to edit the page to look alot cleaner
[00:38]<eyaexj>Yes, but the closer, the better.
[00:38]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>I'll show you the index.php file
[00:38]<rflxr>imho, there is no point in converting to css completly
[00:38]<eyaexj>There are so many benefits!
[00:38]<eyaexj>Accessibility being the big one, of course.
[00:38]<rflxr>as there will be people still using none css compliant browsers
[00:38]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15612
[00:38]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>See it ?
[00:38]<eyaexj>Then there's file size, flexibility, search engine visibility..
[00:39]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>the problem is in:
[00:39]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd><?php $msg = $_GET['msg'];
[00:39]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>echo "<a href=\"$yourlink\" target=\"blank\"><img src=\"$yourlogo\"></a>";
[00:39]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>I think
[00:39]<eyaexj>Alpha: Yes, but the support is good enough to rely on CSS for page presentation now.
[00:39]<rflxr>true but with transitional you can cater for both css compliant browser users and non
[00:39]<eyaexj>Alpha: add style="border: none;" to the <img>
[00:39]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>Anyone able to sort this thing out for me?
[00:39]<eyaexj>Although it should still be a priority for you to validate that thing.
[00:39]<rflxr>other guy, not me
[00:40]<eyaexj>Sorry.
[00:40]<eyaexj>QPAD|war-away: add style="border: none;" to the <img>
[00:40]<rflxr>echo "<a href=\"$yourlink\" target=\"blank\"><img src=\"$yourlogo\"></a>" ......
[00:40]<eyaexj>Hm.. we've already given you the answer.
[00:41]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>Where exactly to put it in ?
[00:41]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>sorry, but could you show me the correct line ?
[00:41]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>that stupid blue thing is killing me :-p
[00:41]<eyaexj><img src=\"$yourlogo\" style=\"border: none\">
[00:41]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>cheers, let me try.
[00:41]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ',' or ';' in /var/www/webmin/index.php on line 32
[00:41]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>buhu
[00:42]<rflxr>end the echo with a ;
[00:42]<eyaexj>*sigh*
[00:42]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>I did
[00:42]<eyaexj>Did you replace <img src=\"$yourlogo\"> with what I gave you?
[00:42]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>echo "<a href=\"$yourlink\" target=\"blank\"><img src=\"$yourlogo\"style=\"border: none\";
[00:42]<eyaexj>I gave you more than that.
[00:42]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>oh
[00:43]<eyaexj>     echo "<a href=\"$yourlink\" target=\"blank\"><img src=\"$yourlogo\" style=\"border: none\"></a>"; ?>
[00:43]<eyaexj>Try that.
[00:43]<rflxr>ahhhh
[00:43]<eyaexj>And also, on this line:       <td style="background-color:;?>
[00:43]<rflxr>ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[00:43]<eyaexj>That may mess your form up.
[00:43]<rflxr>whats going on
[00:43]<qpzd|wzz-zwzd>ah iok
[00:43]<eyaexj>Just replace it with <td>
[00:43]<rflxr>im seeing freaky characters
[00:43]<eyaexj>Weird..

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