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[02:47]<mzzayg>riczho: o i get your point
[02:47]<eyaexj>Well, for me, (somebody that doesn't know a thing about javascript), it'd be.. but I'd still keep with the normal checkbox.
[02:47]<mzzayg>riczho: you mean to hid ethe checkbox (maybe with height=1px width 1px and add an image with onclick/action
[02:47]<eyaexj>Trust me, your users will be more comfortable/familiar with the standard input.
[02:48]<eyaexj>(That's the angle I'd use to convince my client)
[02:48]<eyaexj>Marcin: I was thinking more of.. completely replacing it with javascript (while still keeping it in the HTML, of course)
[02:48]<mzzayg>erm hmm
[02:49]<mzzayg>yeah ...
[02:49]<mzzayg>ok so for me too much work for the salary and for the tim ethat i have for it..
[02:50]<fg0ggg_>u guys know of any tools that clean up html?
[02:50]<mzzayg>Fr0zen_: yea, i know one
[02:50]<fg0ggg_>before i get flammed, i have like 15,000 lines of myspace html i need to cleanup.
[02:50]<fg0ggg_>no going to bother having ti validate, and clean it up by hand
[02:51]<eyaexj>Fr0zen_: HTML Tidy.
[02:51]<mzzayg>Fr0zen_: everyone call it "brain"
[02:51]<mzzayg>:>
[02:51]<eyaexj>Marcin: It's not even as much of a time issue-- it's just going to end up confusing users more.
[02:51]<mzzayg>Fr0zen_: hmm
[02:52]<fg0ggg_>ah
[02:52]<fg0ggg_>doesnt topstyle have html tidy
[02:52]<mzzayg>riczho: yeah but you know...that kind of checkbox would ... let's say.. a new kind of ...
[02:53]<mzzayg>ok neverem you probably don't understand me
[02:53]<mzzayg>but ok, thx
[02:57]<mzzayg>shit
[02:58]<mzzayg>hmm
[02:58]<mzzayg>ok question that is not complicated with html/css and even any software
[02:58]<mzzayg>maybe someone will help me
[02:59]<mzzayg>i've got an old mainboard it contains double pII 233MHz and 64MB ram and 30GB hdd
[02:59]<mzzayg>i also have, there one intel eth card and an rtl8180 wfi card
[02:59]<mzzayg>the problem is that since... dunno when.. this machine started to restart
[03:00]<mzzayg>and i can't find what is the problem :/
[03:01]<mzzayg>i put there linux
[03:01]<mzzayg>everything was ok for 4 years.. and now.. ;(
[03:02]<mzzayg>i checked the /var/log and nothing
[03:02]<mzzayg>not even one little info about reboot or any problem with software
[03:03]<mzzayg>maybe some of you had the same problem ?
[04:01]<pfjfzd>so like, if I'm using CSS, and I'm trying to use div's instead of tables, how can I make it so if I have: <div><div>content</div></div> the parent div there will have the same height as the child one?
[04:03]<eyaexj>The parent already has the same height as the child one-- it gets "stretched."
[04:05]<pfjfzd>well, in theory, yes. I know I'm probably doing something wrong, but it isn't exactly turnint out that way.
[04:05]<pfjfzd>feel like taking a look? :)
[04:06]<pfjfzd>http://site1.codexterous.com/~fury/niche/
[04:08]<eyaexj>Wow.. slow..
[04:08]<pfjfzd>its my cable modem, sorry about that
[04:08]<pfjfzd>don't have it on a real server yet
[04:08]<eyaexj>Wow, I hope mine isn't so slow..
[04:09]<pfjfzd>I mean it looks way worse in firefox than it does in IE
[04:09]<pfjfzd>but the background still doesn't extend
[04:11]<eyaexj>Hm.. I still haven't seen it yet.
[04:11]<pfjfzd>huh?
[04:12]<pfjfzd>very odd, actually W3 is having a problem with it too
[04:12]<pfjfzd>I thought itw as just "slow" not that you weren't getting anything at all
[04:12]<pfjfzd>which is very odd indeed.
[04:13]<eyaexj>Nope-- can't get to it at all..
[04:14]<pfjfzd>ugh
[04:21]<pfjfzd>well, is there something I need to add to my CSS to display things in a table-like layout?
[04:21]<pfjfzd>maybe display: something?
[04:22]<pfjfzd>I am basically trying to make a background, a left sidebar, and a right content area
[04:22]<pfjfzd>but what is happening is that in firefox, hte content area is displayed below the sidebar spanning the entire width of the page, while in IE it is to the right of the sidebar, and the background does not cover the entire area
[04:49]<fg0ggg_>what does a xml name space specifically do in a document?
[04:49]<fg0ggg_>example: http
[04:49]<fg0ggg_><html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
[04:58]<mrfraxy>Here.
[04:59]<znysyj>`html base @ Malachi
[04:59]<rtfs>Malachi, html base: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#edef-BASE
[04:59]<mrfraxy>Thanks, I'll try it out.
[05:01]<mrfraxy>reisio: Er, what's that saying?
[05:01]<mrfraxy>I'm wondering if I'll have to enter every link as an absolute if I use this.
[05:02]<znysyj>double-edged sword, ya
[05:02]<znysyj>if you know a decent server-side language, you can use templated includes
[05:02]<mrfraxy>Aw....
[05:03]<mrfraxy>How would I do that?
[05:03]<znzjs>or old school SSI <!--#include "foo.html" --> :)
[05:03]<znysyj>or you can just include the menu area and give its links alone absolute paths
[05:06]<mrfraxw>Disconnected.
[05:06]<mrfraxw>So I use absolutes in my include template?
[05:07]<znysyj>that'd probably be simplest
[05:07]<znysyj>I don't remember if plain SSI can handle absolute includes, though :p
[05:08]<znysyj>Zeros probably remembers :p
[05:08]<mrfraxw>Hmm.
[05:10]<pfjfzd>Guys for some reason my server isn't accepting HTTP connections from outside my lan, but I'd really appreciate some help with this <div> issue. IE renders this fine, but firefox won't display the sidebar to the left of the content area, instead it displays the content area below the sidebar, and won't stretch the parent element (a div with a background) to cover it all. Here's the HTML: http://rafb.net/paste/results/B4xjkq92.html and the CSS: ht
[05:10]<znzjs>it can Malach1 and reisio
[05:11]<pfjfzd>the sidebar is class 'box-area' and the content area is class 'content-area'
[05:11]<znzjs>through a virtual request, <!--#include virtual="/mywebsite/foo.html" --> Malach1 (see: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_include.html#includevirtual )
[05:13]<mrfraxw>Thanks, Zero.
[05:14]<mrfraxw>Any idea why I get the "an error occurred while processing this directive"?
[05:14]<pfjfzd>here's a screenshot: http://www.codexterous.com/ss.GIF
[05:16]<pfjfzd>does anybody have any idea why firefox would render it that way, but IE renders it the way I want?
[05:17]<pfjfzd>(I won't use "IE renders it correctly" because I know it's probably a mistake I'm making)
[05:19]<znzjs>let me guess flolry, that grey bar across the middle should be below the rest of the stuff?
[05:19]<pfjfzd>It should cover the background of the rest of the stuff
[05:19]<pfjfzd>because the grey bar is a parent element
[05:19]<pfjfzd>also the sidebar should be next to the content area
[05:19]<znzjs>you need to clear the floats
[05:20]<znzjs>`css clear
[05:20]<rtfs>css clear: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#propdef-clear
[05:20]<pfjfzd>clear: all
[05:20]<pfjfzd>ok, in what element?
[05:20]<pfjfzd>the one with the background, the bar?

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