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[05:20]<znzjs>clear: both;
[05:20]<znzjs>maybe, without the source I can't tell you
[05:20]<znzjs>try it and see what you get :)
[05:20]<pfjfzd>HTML: http://rafb.net/paste/results/B4xjkq92.html and the CSS: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FiN0jK89.html
[05:20]<pfjfzd>as I said for some reason, my server isn't accepting http connections from outside my lan
[05:21]<pfjfzd>so I've pasted the source and a screenshot instead
[05:21]<znzjs>um I'm not sure, there's lots of tables in there :/
[05:22]<pfjfzd>heh yeah I'm working on getting rid of them
[05:22]<znzjs>you want it after the box-area and content-area elements are closed
[05:22]<pfjfzd>I want it to extend that far, yes
[05:22]<znzjs>you need to place the clearing element there is what I meant
[05:22]<pfjfzd>and I need box-area and content-area to be side-by-side, not box-area on the top and content-area on the bottom
[05:23]<pfjfzd>oh
[05:23]<pfjfzd>ok, let me try, sec
[05:25]<pfjfzd>no :( I put clear: both in the div that follows that parent div
[05:25]<pfjfzd>It did move that stuff down below content-area
[05:25]<pfjfzd>but content-area is still below box-area and content-background still doesn't extend the entire length
[07:25]<kyzr>Hello. What's the acceptable format for the value of the name attribute in an <input> element?
[07:26]<kyzr>I mean, can I use spaces, dots, commas, etc?
[07:27]<20rv>`html name
[07:27]<20rv>`html id
[07:27]<rtfs>html id: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.2
[07:28]<20rv>`html input
[07:28]<rtfs>html input: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-INPUT
[07:28]<20rv>^ shows that an input's name attribute is CDATA, the link to which describes its limits
[07:29]<kyzr>sweet, there's a specbot in here. :)
[07:42]<pfraaym><address>Australia</address>
[07:42]<pfraaym>we won!
[08:07]<wjjsvr>and news just at hand: we landed on the moon
[08:08]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>is it really made of swiss cheese?
[08:08]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>and is it non-fattening?
[08:08]<wjjsvr>Of course it's made of cheese .. look carefully .. http://moon.google.com/
[08:09]<wjjsvr>It's cheese with holes so it's not as fattening as cheese without holes - air has no calories
[08:11]<mnzmzjjv>there's no air on the moon
[08:11]<wjjsvr>Even less calories in a vaccuum
[08:19]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>well
[08:19]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>if you have a high cholesterol risk due to air calories filled, who's to sue? who's to be subpoenaed?
[08:37]<znysyj>CommandPrompt: McDonald's
[08:40]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>hee
[08:58]<nm-q0n>firefox doesn't seem to parse my style sheet correctly.. is this a known issue with firefox or something?
[08:58]<nm-q0n>http://astro.temple.edu/~eplumlee/styles/default.css
[08:59]<svjgncdlxnz>god that gets old
[08:59]<nm-q0n>sorry
[08:59]<znysyj>ed-209: it's a known issue with people that barely know how to code
[08:59]<svjgncdlxnz>"omg firefox won't parse my stylesheet, obviously it's firefox's fault and not mine, and this ridiculously obvious thing that would break everyone's intarweb must be not-working, i couldn't possibly have a bug"
[08:59]<znysyj>(or configure servers, etc.)
[09:00]<mrmfyfjv>so much for ed-209...
[09:00]<znysyj>another victory $
[09:01]<znysyj>heh, and all he's got is "use tahoma!"
[09:01]<znysyj>mmm, tables :p
[09:01]<znysyj>!v http://astro.temple.edu/~eplumlee/
[09:01]<rtfs>HTML: Not valid - Errors: 32, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://astro.temple.edu/~eplumlee/
[09:01]<rtfs>CSS: Valid - Warnings: 22, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://astro.temple.edu/~eplumlee/
[09:02]<mrmfyfjv>wow, what a totally useless css file that is
[09:02]<znysyj>yup :p
[09:03]<znzjs>Madpilot, they when they want to change the font just just have to do a search and replace in that css file ;P
[09:04]<mrmfyfjv>except that the font is Tahoma, not tahoma, and AFAIK case matter for CSS font names :P
[09:04]<mrmfyfjv>matters, not matter
[09:05]<mnzmzjjv>its case sensitive in the specs?
[09:05]<znysyj>he said he's just switched to Linux and forgot that it doesn't come with Tahoma :p
[09:07]<mnzmzjjv>ah that explains it all :)
[09:08]<mrmfyfjv>deadroot, I've always just used the generic font family names, but I'm pretty sure the real font names have to be exact in CSS
[09:09]<mnzmzjjv>you mean like sans-serif, serif, monospace? yeah, that's the catch-all
[09:09]<mnzmzjjv>but as for the specific fonts, no. i do mine in lower case
[09:09]<mnzmzjjv>`css font
[09:09]<rtfs>css font: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/fonts.html#propdef-font
[09:10]<znysyj>all lowercase is fine
[09:10]<mrmfyfjv>Hmm, all the examples in that spec seem to use exact capitalization. I believe you if you say that all-lower-case works, though :)
[09:10]<znysyj>'trebuchet ms', etc.
[09:13]<znzjs>Madpilot, does raise a good question how naming conflicts should be resolved on a case-sensitive platform like *nix
[09:16]<znysyj>there's so much crap setup for font matching
[09:16]<znysyj>they probably took it for granted that lowercase should be allowed
[09:16]<mnzmzjjv>i could live with case-sensitive names :)
[09:18]<2y2fyj->is there any good reason for case sensitivity in a language/platform at all?
[09:18]<znysyj>um, yes...
[09:18]<znysyj>for example, my nick is "reisio"
[09:18]<znysyj>not "Reisio", not "REISIO"
[09:18]<znysyj>only "reisio" is correct
[09:18]<znysyj>period
[09:19]<mnzmzjjv>i agree with reisio
[09:19]<mnzmzjjv>it's kinda weird when people starts calling me Deadroot
[09:19]<znysyj>and Zeros has a capital Z
[09:19]<mnzmzjjv>no respect at all :(
[09:20]<znysyj>but there are probably tons of instances of "zero" in your system
[09:20]<2y2fyj->in short, there isn't any, right?
[09:20]<znysyj>deadroot: some shit IRC clients do it automatically :/
[09:20]<mnzmzjjv>reisio: the capitalisation?
[09:20]<znysyj>deadroot: ya
[09:20]<znysyj>you just don't get it, Biblio-
[09:20]<mnzmzjjv>nosy busybodies
[09:20]<znysyj>"B" is not a 'bigger' form of "b"
[09:20]<znysyj>it's an entirely different character
[09:21]<znysyj>your mind merely associates the two as one
[09:21]<2y2fyj->all fixable with a simple table that equates b with B
[09:21]<znysyj>?
[09:21]<znysyj>okay, well

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