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[13:48]<dzmzaivnz>My internet connection has been delayed *again*, so I'm looking at alternatives to hosting a site myself.
[13:49]<gjss>get a virtual private server from yahoo. they have a big center in stockholm with good connections all over europe.
[13:49]<gjss>i thinkg powervps is a good alternative for vps close to US.
[13:50]<gjss>they're a bit small for some server-side technologies, but if you run lean ones they're fine
[13:50]<bnrcr>DRMacIver looks expensive
[13:50]<dzmzaivnz>I was thinking of getting one of the basic options, which are fairly cheap.
[13:50]<gjss>I dont think he is for sale.
[13:51]<dzmzaivnz>Especially given the exchange rate means that $12 is about 50p at the moment. ;)
[13:51]<bnrcr>DRMacIver actually its went up
[13:51]<gjss>p?
[13:52]<bnrcr>$12 is £6.50 ish
[13:52]<dzmzaivnz>noss: Pence. 1p = 0.01 pounds.
[13:52]<dzmzaivnz>(UK pounds)
[13:52]<dzmzaivnz>Becka: Still, not exactly going to break the bank.
[13:52]<bnrcr>but to put an easier $500 is exactly £3.50
[13:53]<bnrcr> i know that becaus ethats what i pay for my online game fee
[13:53]<dzmzaivnz>I think you probably mean $5.00 :)
[13:53]<bnrcr>yer lol
[13:54]<bnrcr>so it roughly 50%
[13:54]<dzmzaivnz>Anyway, high on my list of priorities is that I should really be able to configure the site arbitrarily.
[13:54]<dzmzaivnz>e.g. if I want to use msp I can.
[13:54]<gjss>msp?
[13:54]<dzmzaivnz>ML Server Pages.
[13:54]<gjss>http://webhosting.lycos.co.uk/
[13:55]<gjss>sounds like you want to get a vps then
[13:55]<dzmzaivnz>Yes.
[13:55]<bnrcr>i dunno i pay £3.50 a month for my file host i think
[13:55]<bnrcr>and its the fasest connection that side of america :)
[13:55]<bnrcr>well not america lol
[13:55]<bnrcr>erm oslow is where it is
[13:56]<gjss>bah, i have no feeling for what 7 pound or 12 pound a month is.
[13:56]<gjss>such small numbers, cant be much money.
[13:56]<dzmzaivnz>12 pounds is probably around $20 (a bit under)
[13:56]<bnrcr>noss £3.50= $5
[13:57]<dzmzaivnz>lycos.co.uk looks good. Thanks.
[13:57]<gjss>i dont know dollar either. i go by 1EUR = 10SEK but then im off 10% or so.
[13:57]<dzmzaivnz>Ah, right.
[13:57]<bnrcr>if it helps any better try http://www.xe.com/ucc/
[13:58]<gjss>seems like 1 eur cost you 0.6833
[13:58]<bnrcr>but yer i like my own host doamin anmes are cheap also
[13:59]<gjss>googling for 12GBP in SEK is nicer.
[13:59]<dzmzaivnz>Becka: Who does your hosting?
[13:59]<rflxr>`html a
[13:59]<rtfs>html a: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#edef-A
[14:00]<bnrcr>DRMacIver afreind of mine hosts my website £.50 on the famous shanta :)
[14:00]<bnrcr>£3.50*
[14:01]<bnrcr>its hosted in oslow and has onverr a gig of stoirage
[14:01]<dzmzaivnz>Ah
[14:02]<bnrcr>but basically i buy storage of a friend who got a shit laod of free storage
[14:03]<gjss>yay, inflation is on its way up. they are guesstimating that stock markets will stay at this low level
[14:04]<bnrcr>DRMacIver iuts worth every penny thoe i think
[14:07]<bnrcr>oh well i should continue midi hunting arg!
[14:09]<dzmzaivnz>Hmm. Well I'm trying to sign up for lycos now, but they appear to have broken their payment page.
[14:09]<dzmzaivnz>That's silly of them. :)
[14:10]<gjss>very. check out the other country pages too, they have different prices and slightly different configurations.
[14:10]<gjss>germany seem to offer better configurations.
[14:12]<bnrcr>DRMacIver if it has pay by paypal teh it probably wont work lol
[14:12]<dzmzaivnz>Becka: Nah. It's a generic pay by credit card page. But it's refusing my card.
[14:13]<bnrcr>thats unusal :-/
[14:15]<bnrcr>then again not so for lycos
[14:15]<dzmzaivnz>How do you mean?
[14:29]<-- dvxn|syzzzyus xzs>http://www.bagdadsoftware.de")
[14:46]<psdrxj-mrn>hello:D Does anybody know if there are any free web counters compatible with w3c ?if yes could you propose me one?Thnx for the help..
[14:47]<bnrcr>DRMacIver ive been a lycos member for a while im yet to find a serves that works relibably and consistantly
[14:47]<dzmzaivnz>Hmm
[14:47]<dzmzaivnz>That strikes me as a significant vote against lycos. :)
[14:48]<dzmzaivnz>Worst comes to worst they'll provide shitty service and I'll cancel, a couple pounds poorer.
[14:48]<bnrcr>DRMacIver let me know if your willing to give into to my friend lol
[14:50]<dzmzaivnz>Becka: Well what is your friend actually offering?
[14:50]<dzmzaivnz>Because a simple static place to host a website is utterly insufficient for my needs.
[14:52]<dzmzaivnz>Hmm. hub.org host the postgreSQL project site. That sounds like a vote of confidence. :)
[14:53]<psdrxj-mrn>anybody?
[14:59]<bnrcr>by web counters do you mena thos ethings that countb how many vistors you have had?
[15:05]<psdrxj-mrn> yeap and some also provide statistics
[15:06]<psdrxj-mrn>the problem is that w3c "kicks" a lot of counters i tried..if you could help me i would be gratefull
[15:11]<dzmzaivnz>I have a really trivial php based webcounter on my site if you want to borrow that.
[15:11]<dzmzaivnz>All it does is a count increment though.
[15:14]<psdrxj-mrn>you know i want to be an opensource counter so someone to use it as link to see that it has a homepage and it is approoved..if the one you use is w3c compatible i would be glad to ..
[15:15]<dzmzaivnz>Err. Well I suppose it's not technically open source.
[15:15]<dzmzaivnz>What it is is five lines of embarassingly simple php which I wrote myself. :)
[15:16]<dzmzaivnz>(ok, 10 lines)
[15:17]<pyznpjw909>There's html xhtml dhtml php xml and lots of other things. That's the best type of document?
[15:17]<psdrxj-mrn>i had write one too but my boss asked for an opensource public one , thats the problem :-(
[15:17]<psdrxj-mrn>thnx anyway
[15:18]<dzmzaivnz>Oh, that's easy then. :)
[15:18]<dzmzaivnz>Do you have a personal web site?
[15:18]<dzmzaivnz>Stick the source for your webcounter on it. Voila - it's now open source.
[15:19]<rflxr>amazing :|
[15:40]<frcne>god is perfect, man is not, man made beer, god made pot
[15:49]<gjss>man spammed irc channels with pro-drug nonsense, god did not.
[15:50]<frcne>yep
[15:50]<pfraaym>god has nothing to do with drugs
[15:52]<gjss>god is a drug
[15:54]<pfraaym>unfortunately
[16:09]<gjss>sigh. IE, continous disappointment.
[16:13]<dzmzaivnz>Really?
[16:13]<dzmzaivnz>I've never been disappointed by IE.
[16:13]<pfraaym>omg IE7 is a joke
[16:14]<psdrxj-mrn>IE? l-o-l..
[16:14]<dzmzaivnz>Specifically I have no expectations of IE which could be disappointed.

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