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[00:02]<ggmzr>how can I get a div not to be so thick.. I have a table and in one of the cell's I have <div title="something">Some Text</div> so that when mouse stops over that text it will explain in a yellow box what it is but its making my cell thick
[00:07]<znysyj>put the title on the td
[00:07]<znysyj><td title=
[00:13]<agjjg>anyone know what i can do for an onClick in an optgroup so when then label of the group is clicked it selects all of the option's in it?
[00:23]<vygzdnfdzz>hi guys. i'm always hesitating : <input/> or <input /> ?
[00:25]<gjns>neither, xhtml is silly
[00:26]<rfvr>how can I squash the content of a div so it doesn't overflow?
[00:26]<rfvr>so if I had an image in the div it would crop the image
[00:29]<rfvr>nvm
[00:39]<sgyccnz>what is a replacement for iframe?
[00:40]<eyaexj>`include
[00:40]<rtfs>include: http://web.archive.org/web/20040628164142/http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Include_one_file_in_another
[00:42]<sgyccnz>just a moment that i read...
[00:45]<sgyccnz>but include, woks also with static html?
[00:45]<nddfdfjvn>is there a way to do a <td width=> specified in character width, and not pixel width?
[00:48]<eyaexj>Width is a deprecated attribute-- use CSS instead.
[00:48]<eyaexj>And em is a unit relative to the font size.
[00:50]<nddfdfjvn>so 20em would be twenty characters?
[00:50]<nddfdfjvn>and I am using css, it was just an example really..
[00:52]<nddfdfjvn>I have font-size: 1em; in my css file...and width=20em..shouldn't that do twenty characters?
[01:32]<rrrrfxjug>hey, what is the easiest way to get a flickr rss feed (the images of the entries only) into an XHTML document?
[01:55]<v|r|lrgt>i need http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html to go to http://66.207.165.178/b/imgboard.html a friend is asking and ive tried pretty much everything i can think of but stuff wont redivert
[01:55]<v|r|lrgt>Any ideas?
[01:56]<nddfdfjvn>I'm trying to make a table using a fixed width font that stays perfectly lined up when the scroll wheel on the mouse is used. I have tried every combination of em, pt, px, and I just can't seem to figure it out..can anyone explain to me exactly how em works and how such a thing is done?
[01:57]<znysyj>you want the rows to appear to be stationary while you scroll?
[01:57]<znysyj>don't think you can really predict where it'll go
[01:57]<znysyj>not with just HTML/CSS
[01:59]<nddfdfjvn>I'd like the table to resize at the same speed as the font basically, I'd ultimately like the width to be in *characters* not pixels..the width of the cells that is, so that no matter how the page is sized it all lines up just right
[02:00]<znysyj>oh
[02:00]<znysyj>use ex
[02:00]<nddfdfjvn>ex? what is ex? I thought that was height...
[02:00]<znysyj>http://kb.mozillazine.org/Em_units_versus_ex_units
[02:00]<v|r|lrgt>How can i redirect a page to somewhere else? using html?
[02:01]<znysyj>v|g|LanT: you have no server-side stuff available?
[02:01]<nddfdfjvn>thanks reisio! looks like that article is what i've been looking for'
[02:02]<v|r|lrgt>I dont think so
[02:02]<nddfdfjvn>ok...so...let me see if I get this straight:
[02:03]<nddfdfjvn>in the .css file I do font-size 9px....in the html file I do table width=1px, and td width=(however manyh characters I want for the cell)ex?
[02:03]<v|r|lrgt>nope reisio
[02:03]<v|r|lrgt>reisio: Can't it be done on my side?
[02:04]<v|r|lrgt>oh boy actually
[02:04]<znysyj>you can try this
[02:04]<znysyj>actually what?
[02:04]<v|r|lrgt>my friend has to make his PC redirect
[02:04]<v|r|lrgt>to some site
[02:04]<znysyj>and?
[02:04]<v|r|lrgt>Like, there is this site, but he has to redirect that one to some other
[02:05]<znysyj>does anyone have like cpanel access or something?
[02:05]<nddfdfjvn>it's still not lining up right..is there no way to do it?
[02:05]<znysyj>guess I don't understand what you want
[02:06]<nddfdfjvn>ok..I have a table with three columns and five rows...
[02:06]<znysyj>k
[02:07]<nddfdfjvn>The second row is a spacer made out of 60 "-" characters...yes I know you can do hrule but I am doing it this way for a design reason
[02:07]<nddfdfjvn>what happens when I scroll is the columns will move back and forth on the table, and its very noticible and annoying as the "-----" stays fixed
[02:08]<nddfdfjvn>it's driving me nuts
[02:08]<znysyj>so the problem is that the columns aren't staying the same width?
[02:08]<nddfdfjvn>exactly
[02:09]<nddfdfjvn>I don't mind if they increase in width AND the text increases to match, so long as they are always the same amount of characters...the second row, in this way, would always grow with the columns and they would always line up
[02:10]<znysyj>why is the text increasing in width?
[02:10]<nddfdfjvn>so for instance, column 2 will always start on the 21st "-"
[02:10]<nddfdfjvn>the text isn't increasing in size..just the table width
[02:10]<znysyj>oh
[02:11]<znysyj>have you checked if table-layout: fixed; might help?
[02:11]<znysyj>applied to the 'table' element
[02:11]<nddfdfjvn>got it!
[02:11]<nddfdfjvn>*bangs her head against her table*
[02:12]<znysyj>that work?
[02:12]<nddfdfjvn>I set the css to 1em, and the td width to (char)ex
[02:12]<nddfdfjvn>table layout fixed? i'm looking that up now...
[02:12]<znysyj>oh, okay...
[02:13]<nddfdfjvn>*whew* well thanks for your help.I was about to go crazy over here
[02:13]<znysyj>gj :)
[02:15]<znysyj>are you at Gonzaga University? :p
[02:15]<nddfdfjvn>lol ip lookup huh?
[02:16]<nddfdfjvn>summer student
[02:16]<znysyj>what do you do at Gonzaga University for just a summer?
[02:17]<nddfdfjvn>they have summer classes here
[02:17]<nddfdfjvn>it's nice..condensed...and easier
[02:17]<nddfdfjvn>hey I gotta run..I didn't realize teh time...thanks for your help!
[02:18]<gzznvxzdzds>haha
[02:18]<gzznvxzdzds>you scared her off
[02:19]<znysyj>hum, maybe she's a normal student and she just meant she happened to be taking classes _over_ the summer
[02:19]<znysyj>jesuit schools :p
[03:07]<lfjlldnzzs>hi
[03:08]<lfjlldnzzs>are fonts in web browsers in a Mac generally smaller than in other browsers in other Operating systems ?
[03:12]<wjjsvr>Not really
[03:13]<wjjsvr>Your screen rez is the main factor .. Mac is default to 72 pixels per inch, and windows to 96
[03:13]<wjjsvr>So windows would normally be smaller on the same monitor
[03:13]<wjjsvr>(if you use px font sizes)
[03:14]<wjjsvr>However if you use a *good* font size, and both systems are accurate in their rez, then they'll be the same
[03:38]<ndu>a curious observation: in Mozilla, I had a table within a fieldset which was behaving in a peculiar fashion: the TD cells were not lining up vertically at all; it was simply printing the TD cells left-to-right according to each individuals' width
[03:38]<ndu>anyone seen anything like that?
[03:38]<ndu>i thought it might have something to do with the fieldset "lacking layout".. /shrug, IE actually worked fine
[03:46]<znysyj>!v http://www.maccasoft.com.au/lld/login.html
[03:46]<rtfs>HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.maccasoft.com.au/lld/login.html

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