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[03:46]<rtfs>CSS: Not valid - Errors: 4, Warnings: 4, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.maccasoft.com.au/lld/login.html
[03:47]<znysyj>emu: link
[04:03]<lfjlldnzzs>thanks Woosta
[04:03]<lfjlldnzzs>I was comparing Linux Firefox with Mac Firefox and Mac Safari
[04:03]<lfjlldnzzs>and in the Mac firefox and safari, fonts looked a tad smaller
[06:48]<rrggv96r>can someone direct me to a site where i can learn how to make a comment form and sent that info to my email?
[06:48]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>`email @ agent47a
[06:48]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>`formmail @ agent47a
[09:13]<rdrdwqw1> I have something really odd going on, i have 2 iframes but only one of them works but they both have almost the exact same code, they work in ie but not firefox
[09:15]<znzjs>Adam1213, almost the exact same code?
[09:16]<rdrdwqw1>yes
[09:16]<rdrdwqw1> http://147.10.117.61/image/dmd3.php
[09:16]<rdrdwqw1>bah
[09:16]<rdrdwqw1> http://147.10.117.61/image/dmd4.php
[09:16]<rdrdwqw1> http://147.10.117.61:81/image/dmd4.php
[09:17]<rdrdwqw1> ok the last one works sorry for posting so many times
[09:17]<mz-mznw>thats fucked up
[09:18]<rdrdwqw1>?
[09:18]<rdrdwqw1> Does not work <iframe name="iframeinfo" src="../info.php" width="140" height="100" sc scrolling="" frameborder="0" marginwidth="1" marginheight="1"> no iframe message </iframe>
[09:19]<rdrdwqw1> works <iframe name="iframesaver" src="dmd4saver.php" width="" height="100" sc scrolling="" frameborder="0" marginwidth="1" marginheight="1">
[09:19]<rdrdwqw1>no iframes message </iframe>
[09:19]<rdrdwqw1> i tried with out any javascript on the page but it still happens that in ie it works in fx it does not work
[09:24]<znzjs>what does "sc" do?
[09:24]<rdrdwqw1> um don't know
[09:25]<rdrdwqw1> dreamweaver seams to of fixed it a little bit http://147.10.117.61:81/image/dmd4.test.php
[09:25]<znzjs>then why's it there :P
[09:25]<znzjs>why is there a phpinfo() dump in there?
[09:26]<jjxggdl>I am using Google's Web Toolkit and I have tables/divs/sub tables in my DOM inspector but all I get is whitespace , it doesn't work in firefox but it works in opera. Any suggestions?
[09:26]<rdrdwqw1> sc is not there now
[09:27]<rdrdwqw1>its just info for me
[09:27]<znzjs>Adam1213, you should never expose a page with phpinfo() in it to the internet, you'd be surprised how much it tells me about your computer
[09:27]<rdrdwqw1>to make sure it would load
[09:28]<rdrdwqw1>is it better know
[09:28]<znzjs>mmhm
[09:28]<znzjs>also
[09:29]<znzjs>!v http://147.10.117.61:81/image/dmd4.test.php
[09:29]<rdrdwqw1>?
[09:29]<rdrdwqw1>refresh
[09:29]<znzjs>wait a sec RTFS is being slow
[09:29]<rdrdwqw1>?
[09:29]<rdrdwqw1>real time file sharing ?
[09:29]<znzjs>no its the bot in here
[09:30]<mrmfyfjv>the local bot - "Read The Fine Specs" ;)
[09:30]<znzjs>b0at, RTFS isn't responding at all
[09:30]<znzjs>well with no bot...
[09:31]<znzjs>!v http://147.10.117.61:81/image/dmd4.test.php
[09:31]<rdrdwqw1>?
[09:31]<rtfs->HTML: Not valid - Errors: 9, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://147.10.117.61:81/image/dmd4.test.php
[09:31]<rdrdwqw1>why does that work better
[09:31]<rtfs->CSS: Not valid - Error: 1, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://147.10.117.61:81/image/dmd4.test.php
[09:31]<znzjs>there we go!
[09:31]<znzjs>thanks b0at :)
[09:32]<rdrdwqw1>http://147.10.117.61:81/image/dmd4.php is the proper one
[09:32]<rdrdwqw1> test one is just dreamweaver's quick open, look at debug and save
[09:33]<znzjs>look at the links the bot posted, you need to validate your page :)
[09:33]<rdrdwqw1>what the hell is the difference
[09:33]<znzjs>you'll have less issues if you do, I'd also suggest not using Dreamweaver
[09:33]<rdrdwqw1> I did not use dreamweaver on it, only on dmd4.test
[09:35]<znzjs>mm, well neither page is valid
[09:35]<znzjs>http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2F147.10.117.61%3A81%2Fimage%2Fdmd4.php&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=HTML+4.01+Strict
[09:35]<znzjs>Failed validation, 243 errors
[09:36]<rdrdwqw1>No Character Encoding Found! Falling back to UTF-8. ... that error is probably why more errors are there
[09:36]<znzjs>um no
[09:36]<znzjs>the other errors are because your markup is invalid
[09:36]<znzjs>none of them have to do with encoding
[09:36]<znzjs>:)
[09:37]<mnzmzjjv>the vast majority is missing alt attributes
[09:37]<znzjs>deadroot, or the missing <html> element? of the body which is also missing
[09:38]<mnzmzjjv>it's html strict right? the <html> is optional
[09:38]<mnzmzjjv>hmm.. i don't think i'm seeing what you're seeing
[09:39]<mnzmzjjv>the dmd4.php that i see has the <html>
[09:39]<rdrdwqw1>yes
[09:39]<rdrdwqw1>just put it in
[09:39]<znzjs>it does now :P
[09:39]<mnzmzjjv>Adam1213: in anycase, the <html> is optional in HTML 4.01
[09:39]<znzjs>that doesn't mean you shouldn't use it
[09:40]<mnzmzjjv>so is the <head> and <body>. the <title> is required though
[09:40]<mnzmzjjv>Zeros: true
[09:40]<rdrdwqw1>I put in those just now
[09:40]<mnzmzjjv>and having them might ease migration to XHTML
[09:40]<znzjs>and prevent browser bugs
[09:40]<mnzmzjjv>browser bugs? are you just waving that banner around? =)
[09:41]<znzjs>nope, but I know from experience that browser don't always do so well with the specs ;)
[09:42]<znzjs></p> isn't required, but you won't always get what you expected when you omit it for instance (since the browser has to guess where to close it)
[09:44]<crscnfjvxvrf>goodmorning :)
[09:44]<znzjs>hmm deadroot , when there's no html element, and no body element.. what exactly is the root of the document?
[09:44]<mnzmzjjv>yes. implicit closing might lead to surprises. but i can't recall of any example for that argument.
[09:45]<mnzmzjjv>no. they're implicit
[09:45]<mnzmzjjv>the <html>, <head>, and <body> are implicitly added
[09:45]<znzjs>so using body in the CSS still applies to the page even if the element isn't there?
[09:45]<mnzmzjjv>yes
[09:46]<mnzmzjjv>just the same with tbody, thead and tfoot
[09:46]<znzjs>thats not really the same
[09:46]<mnzmzjjv>why not?
[09:46]<znzjs>thead and tfoot are not implied, tbody is
[09:46]<crscnfjvxvrf>is it a known problem that the Opera browser doesen't accept <a href=""><img ...></a> as a link? i have a page that's working fine in both IE and Mozilla, and validates XHTML Transitional. Any suggestions what might be wrong?
[09:46]<mnzmzjjv>kaskelothval: could we see the code?

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