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[16:42]<mzzch_uc>oh
[16:42]<mzzch_uc>i didnt know his app
[16:42]<mzzch_uc>:)
[16:42]<mzzch_uc>but i just use classes
[16:42]<mzzch_uc>easier.
[16:42]<lrsxcgypn_>easier for what?
[16:42]<lrsxcgypn_>only 1 body tag?
[16:42]<mzzch_uc>life
[16:42]<mzzch_uc>:)
[16:42]<mzzch_uc>no
[16:42]<mzzch_uc>:)
[16:43]<mgrfn>lashknife okay
[16:43]<mzzch_uc>body { margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background-color:#e0cb9e; }
[16:43]<mzzch_uc><body>
[16:43]<lrsxcgypn_>then create your wrapper div
[16:43]<mzzch_uc>tadah!
[16:43]<lrsxcgypn_>guess you want to center it using margin: 0px auto; and some given width: ??px
[16:44]<mzzch_uc>#wrapper { text-align:center; width:750px; padding-left: 4px; }
[16:44]<mzzch_uc>for example :P
[16:44]<wwjww>how to make 3d tabs?
[16:44]<mzzch_uc>then <div id="wrapper">content centered</div>
[16:45]<lrsxcgypn_>text-align: center?
[16:45]<lrsxcgypn_>no
[16:45]<lrsxcgypn_>width: 750px;
[16:45]<lrsxcgypn_>margin: 0px auto;
[16:45]<lrsxcgypn_>this way, the wrapper div gets centered against the body
[16:45]<lrsxcgypn_>at all time
[16:47]<lrsxcgypn_>xxoxx, perhaps this article can help you
[16:47]<lrsxcgypn_>http://alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors/
[16:47]<lrsxcgypn_>or google for html tabs
[16:48]<mgrfn>i don't think its working lashknife http://www.followingparis.com
[16:49]<mgrfn>uh!1hasdas
[16:49]<mgrfn>sry my bad
[16:50]<lrsxcgypn_>forgot to upload the png?
[16:50]<mgrfn>yay you did it!
[16:50]<mgrfn>forgot to put /image/ in the url for hte png
[16:50]<mgrfn>thanks so much
[16:51]<lrsxcgypn_>don't use "/images"
[16:51]<lrsxcgypn_>just "images"
[16:51]<lrsxcgypn_>don't tell it to look at the root of your webspace
[16:51]<lrsxcgypn_>make it look relative
[16:51]<mgrfn>ah okay
[16:51]<lrsxcgypn_>less troubles if you ever should move it
[16:52]<mgrfn>okay
[16:53]<mzzch_uc>u have an aligment issue
[16:54]<mzzch_uc>nav to the top part of the header there is a 4 pixel or so gap
[16:54]<mgrfn>oh yeah - just a css positioning should fix it?
[16:54]<lrsxcgypn_>pfrt at code :)
[17:07]<mgrfn>yeah that's probably a better idea - i gotta learn more
[17:07]<mgrfn>whats the article?
[17:08]<gjss>http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/
[17:08]<mgrfn>thanks
[17:12]<lrsxcgypn_>http://alistapart.com/articles/rollovers
[17:12]<lrsxcgypn_>check the entire alistapart site for handy tips & tricks
[17:13]<lrsxcgypn_>but listamatic idd for menu stuff
[17:13]<mgrfn>okay
[17:13]<mgrfn>but you think its some-what advanced?
[17:13]<lrsxcgypn_>not really advanced
[17:13]<lrsxcgypn_>but an entire other way of looking at designing and whats possible seen from a coder's point of view
[17:14]<lrsxcgypn_>the point of good code is that your body contains as little as possible code
[17:14]<gjss>speak for yourself
[17:14]<lrsxcgypn_>?
[17:15]<lrsxcgypn_>and separate styling from content
[17:15]<lrsxcgypn_>and applying more semantical use of tags
[17:15]<lrsxcgypn_>what noss?
[17:15]<mgrfn>seperate styling from content - do you mean having 2 styling sheets?
[17:15]<lrsxcgypn_>no
[17:16]<lrsxcgypn_>i mean that the code between <body> and </body> should contain only what's needed to structure it
[17:16]<lrsxcgypn_>styling should go to the css part
[17:16]<lrsxcgypn_>also, no tables for designing
[17:16]<lrsxcgypn_>correct use of h1-h6 for titling, p for paragraphs, not just divs
[17:17]<mgrfn>ah okay
[17:17]<lrsxcgypn_>the use of tags for what they're meant for
[17:50]<mgrfn>Whats the best way to get floats to work in firefox? ( http://www.followingparis.com ) - I can get it to work in IE fine. Without positioning elements it was satcking all at the top, with the elements its still not stacking correclty.
[17:51]<gjss>begin by havign your document validate.
[17:51]<gjss>because floats work in firefox.
[17:55]<mgrfn>okay
[17:56]<mgrfn>why does it not like <html> </html> ?
[18:18]<mgrfn>!v http://www.followingparis.com
[18:18]<mgrfn>aw :\
[18:19]<mgrfn>but it should be validating - i was just checking some stuff with the other version
[18:47]<luld>hello, got a problem
[18:47]<luld>can anyone tell me what's wrong in here?
[18:47]<luld>http://es.geocities.com/ucho_trabajo/web/test.html
[18:48]<luld>I cannot make the first tab corner stick properly
[18:52]<nuffaaxvwt>Hi, when I'm making an image "clickable", by wrapping it in a <a> element, some browsers, like ff, will put a border around the image. How can I get rid of that?
[18:52]<vdzq1q>NullAcht15 : use css attribute border:0 for the <a> element
[18:56]<ai_ajmnz>What are five websites that get 10k hits a day?
[18:57]<ai_ajmnz>Not obvious ones either...
[18:57]<vdzq1q>??
[18:59]<nuffaaxvwt>tmr232: doesn't work
[18:59]<vdzq1q>wait a moment...
[19:00]<nuffaaxvwt>tmr232: it does work, though, if I put the style="border:0;" as an attribute to the img element
[19:00]<vdzq1q>ok, my mistake...
[19:01]<vdzq1q>oops...
[19:14]<aw0l>O
[19:15]<aw0l>I'm not thinking clearly - I want to have a <li> to act as a menu above a table
[19:15]<aw0l>how to I get the table to clear to another line?
[19:15]<aw0l>it puts the table on the same line when I try to display the <ul> inline
