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[00:01]<|zzggg>now i just have to figure out why IE won't let me use the full available width on #stnPgRight :)
[00:02]<|zzggg>ah think it might be now
[00:02]<znysyj>well
[00:03]<znysyj>don't waste time trying to figure out IE unless you have a good doctype declaration
[00:03]<znysyj>and your code is all valid
[00:03]<znysyj>`doctype html4strict @ |green
[00:03]<rtfs>|green, doctype html4strict: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
[00:03]<znysyj>http://validator.w3.org/ http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
[00:08]<|zzggg>i just added in a transitional doctype, which is what i usually use.. should i stick to strict?
[00:08]<|zzggg>reisio: got one more for you if you're interested... #stnPageLeft and .borderedBottom (many divs) are neglecting to show their specified borders, any idea why?
[00:09]<znysyj>|green: strict is better, but transitional is fine _if_ you include the http:// URI
[00:11]<znysyj>now let me see
[00:12]<|zzggg>html is valid excepting the missing image ALT tags, which are coming out anyway
[00:12]<znysyj>|green: oh, border just doesn't work like that, you've got the syntax wrong
[00:12]<znysyj>`css border @ |green
[00:12]<rtfs>|green, css border: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#propdef-border
[00:13]<znysyj>looks like you're mostly trying to use the 'border-width' property
[00:13]<znysyj>for which you can define the widths for each side
[00:13]<znysyj>then you can use 'border-color' to define their color
[00:13]<|zzggg>i dont usually use the shorthand like this, i'll try doing border-left: 1px solid red; .. etc etc.. just to be more deliberate.. but the shorthand should work, shouldn't it?
[00:14]<znysyj>if you use border-width: 1px 2px 0 3px; that'll work
[00:14]<znysyj>border: doesn't work like that, though
[00:15]<znysyj>|green: that jigsaw link I gave will help you with this sort of thing
[00:15]<|zzggg>you're saying "border: 1px solid black;" is invalid?
[00:15]<|zzggg>i've been using that syntax for years and never had a single problem
[00:15]<znysyj>no, border: 1px solid black; is fine
[00:16]<znysyj>but what I just saw on your page was like this...
[00:16]<znysyj>border: 0px 1px #ff0923 2px 0;, etc.
[00:16]<|zzggg>i understand, i've removed that, and it still isn't working.
[00:16]<znysyj>okay let me look again, then
[00:16]<|zzggg>if you reference #stnPgLeft you'll see what i mean
[00:17]<|zzggg>nm, ignore me, it is showing now - but it's positioned wrong somehow
[00:17]<|zzggg>which introduces a new problem :)
[00:17]<znysyj>k
[00:25]<|zzggg>weird.. stnPgLeft actually is 216, and stnPgRight is 584 (measured them in photoshop) .. that equals 800... so those are correct but still overlap, so apparently subcontent is not 800 :)
[00:26]<|zzggg>nope, only 780... now to figure out why :)
[00:28]<|zzggg>i knew i visualized this before, for some reason it's padding 40px on the right instead of 20 like it should be
[00:28]<znysyj>ugh, my network is sucking
[00:29]<znysyj>should be 840 total
[00:29]<|zzggg>#subcontent is 840, but it's padding 20 left and 40 right, when i've specified 20, 20
[00:30]<znysyj>how did you determine that?
[00:32]<|zzggg>determine that it's padding 40 on the right? well for one can see visually it's more than 20, and i put it into photoshop and measured it
[00:33]<|zzggg>no clue why it's doing it, but it's doing it in both ff and ie
[00:33]<znysyj>okay well I need to split
[00:33]<znysyj>you should join #css for further help
[00:34]<|zzggg>thanks for all your help, reisio
[00:34]<znysyj>np
[02:58]<gzyzzgvza>OK, I've got quite a ocmplicated question here.
[02:58]<gzyzzgvza>complicated*
[03:01]<gzyzzgvza>Kind of long,so I'll copy and paste from another channel into a pastebin.
[03:01]<znysyj>nairanvac: okay, better not make any typos :p
[03:01]<gzyzzgvza>lol
[03:04]<gzyzzgvza>Ah, pastebin is being a bitch.
[03:04]<gzyzzgvza>I'l c&p directly
[03:04]<gzyzzgvza>(19:48:44) nairanvac: See, there's this thing called Gabbly, which is basically a HTML embeddable chat box.
[03:04]<gzyzzgvza>(19:49:22) nairanvac: And see, I have one embedde din my signature at a forum.
[03:04]<gzyzzgvza>(19:50:16) nairanvac: And, you have to specify a URL, so, the URL I put was for the index page of the forum, so it's kind of like a universal chat for the forum.
[03:04]<gzyzzgvza>(19:50:39) nairanvac: But, I'd like to set it as chat for just the individual topic that the post with my sig is in.
[03:04]<gzyzzgvza>(19:51:12) nairanvac: Is there any URL that I could enter in that would do that?
[03:09]<znysyj>okay
[03:09]<znysyj>would probably take javascript
[03:09]<znysyj>hate to say it, but ask #web
[03:10]<gzyzzgvza>XD
[03:10]<gzyzzgvza>Wow.
[03:11]<gzyzzgvza>I feel like I'm going through an ordeal with the phone company..
[03:11]<gzyzzgvza>"Oh,y ou'll have to call (number). *calls* You'll have to call extension number..."
[03:12]<gzyzzgvza>The folks in #linuxn00b told me to come here.
[03:12]<znysyj>sorry, heheh
[03:12]<gzyzzgvza>AH, it's no problem.
[03:12]<znysyj>it's just the #web folks are more into scripting like that
[03:12]<gzyzzgvza>Yeah.
[03:12]<gzyzzgvza>Now, JS should work in my sig, right?
[03:13]<znysyj>depends on the forum
[03:13]<gzyzzgvza>I guess we'll see.
[03:13]<gzyzzgvza>Thanks anyways, guys!
[03:45]<|zzggg>shouldn't placing a <div style="clear: both"></div> as the last element w/in a container make that container expand heightwise to the size of it's largest child element?
[03:58]<gnzj>when an anchor is clicked on, it leaves a dotted box around the anchor (very faint, 1 pixel). Can this be eliminated with css?
[04:05]<acdducd>Can I do this? <input type="hidden" value="somedata" id="test"> and then <input type="hidden" value="some other data" id="test" name="test">
[04:34]<wdvgzg>How can I get a special character code (in my case, the greek letter mu) to work inside the text of an <option> in a <select> ?
[04:43]<rflxr>wyvern, use the html entity for mu
[04:43]<wdvgzg>Alpha: It doesn't show up in the menu.
[04:43]<wdvgzg>Works fine when I use the entity in body text
[04:44]<rflxr>hum
[04:44]<rflxr>perhaps you cant then
[04:47]<rflxr>might be something to do with the way the default drop down box is rendered on different os's
[04:47]<rflxr>they might not all use unicode
[04:47]<wdvgzg>Woosta: I tried it on linux and os x.
[04:47]<wdvgzg>err, wrong nick. But you get the idea.
[04:49]<rflxr>i dont know but if the browser vendors have decided not to encode the drop down menus for unicode characters then you're a bit screwed
[04:50]<wdvgzg>damn.
[04:50]<rflxr>just trying to google around a bit now
[04:52]<wdvgzg>hm, this is weird
[04:52]<wdvgzg>when i do it by hand, it shows up fine
[04:52]<wdvgzg>but when i generate the <option> with javascript it breaks
[04:53]<rflxr>ah so they do display in drop downs
[04:53]<wdvgzg>apparently.
[04:53]<wdvgzg>I must be screwing something up
[04:57]<wdvgzg>Aha. Can't insert html entities via js. Gotta insert a literal mu character.
