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[00:17]<drdjgj>riczho: what is my router doing? also, it's a Linksys W4T54G-P2A which is the AT&T version, so I don't have control of the firmware updates
[00:17]<20rv>Mamono: If you can turn off text filtering, do it
[00:17]<eyaexj>Mamono: Connect to freenode on a different port, then.
[00:18]<eyaexj>It's a weird netgear exploit or something.
[00:18]<20rv>*linksys
[00:19]<20rv>It's the new VXWorks firmware having dumb, buggy options on by default
[00:19]<20rv>Why they couldn't stick with the linux stuff that just works I don't know
[01:21]<zzjjgy>hey folks
[01:21]<zzjjgy>how should div IDs be named?
[01:21]<zzjjgy>is there a standard convention?
[01:29]<eyaexj>Based on their content.
[02:49]<gnemed2jd>Hi
[02:50]<gzznvxzdzds>hi
[02:51]<gnemed2jd>How can I make te content of a form dissapear when a user clicks it? I would like to put username as the value of the form instead of putting text beside it...
[02:51]<gzznvxzdzds>that's bad usability
[02:51]<gnemed2jd>bad usability?
[02:51]<gzznvxzdzds>if information is important enough to show the user how to use the form, why remove it from the document when they start using it?
[02:52]<gnemed2jd>because there is only 2 text boxes... There's no way to get mixed up
[02:53]<wjjsvr>Still bad fu
[02:53]<gnemed2jd>but is it possible?
[02:54]<gzznvxzdzds>yeh it's possible, but it's never good. notice how many big sites *don't* do it?
[02:54]<wjjsvr><input type="text" value="Name" onfocus="if (this.value=='Name') this.value=''" name="Name">
[02:54]<wjjsvr>GarethAdams: Actually, I have
[02:54]<wjjsvr>And it's damned annoying
[02:54]<wjjsvr>Normally it's for search fields though, which isn't *too* bad
[02:55]<wjjsvr>The problem comes when you *want* the value to be 'Name' .. in which case, setting a flag is the only way around it
[02:55]<gnemed2jd>k
[02:56]<wjjsvr><input type="text" value="Name" onfocus="if (! window.changeFlags[this.name]) this.value=''; window.changeFlags[this.name]=true" name="Name">
[02:56]<add1>how do i make video appear on my website? whats the code?
[02:56]<wjjsvr>cmm3: depends on a LOT of things
[02:56]<add1>Woosta: its a .wmv file
[02:56]<wjjsvr>Easiest way: upload it to youtube and put their player on your page
[02:56]<add1>about 3 megs
[02:57]<add1>Woosta: how can i do it without youtube?
[02:57]<wjjsvr>Google for it .. but you want object tags (and possibly embed)
[02:58]<pzdrrmfd_rjjr>boing!
[03:00]<add1>what exactly do i google?
[03:01]<gnemed2jd>http://www.htmlgoodies.com/tutorials/web_graphics/article.php/3480061
[03:01]<add1>thanks, ill read it
[03:07]<gnemed2jd>I tried using onfocus="if (this.value=='Name') this.value=''" but is there a way to change the type of the box? (something like onfocus="this.type='password'")?
[03:08]<gnemed2jd>sould I go ask this in the js channel?
[04:29]<zr2nfmr2fn>does anyone know what area of a webpage yahoo and google use for the description of your site thats under the title link in their search results ?
[04:30]<zr2nfmr2fn>for example if you search for ebay in yahoo, the text i'm wondering about is under eBay - Official Site: Find exactly what you want today.
[04:31]<eyaexj>Google takes an excerpt, I think.
[04:31]<eyaexj>But look at the meta tag:`
[04:31]<eyaexj>`html meta
[04:31]<rtfs>html meta: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#edef-META
[04:32]<zr2nfmr2fn>the example I gave was for a sponsered result...
[04:32]<zr2nfmr2fn>i meant to use an example that was not a sponsered result
[04:33]<zr2nfmr2fn>the non-sponsored result for ebay is: Official site for eBay online marketplace. Buy or sell jewelry, electronics, games, cars, collectibles, antiques, clothing, sporting goods, video games, toys, computers, and more.
[04:34]<eyaexj>rabeldable: If you search for that in the source of ebay.com, you'll see the corresponding meta tag.
[04:35]<eyaexj><meta name="description" content="Stuff">
[04:39]<zr2nfmr2fn>the meta tag is different than the text on yahoo
[04:39]<zr2nfmr2fn>and it does not say offical site in the meta tag
[07:26]<gnemed2jd>When using an <input type="password">, is it possible to use a different caracter (change the * by something else)
[08:27]<wjjsvr>nerdzyboy: no
[08:28]<wjjsvr>Though you could replicate password inputs in JS
[08:29]<gnemed2jd>k
[08:29]<gnemed2jd>I guess I'll stick with the * then...
[09:17]<zr2nfmr2fn>in a <td> do you have to nowrap=nowrap or can you just say nowrap ?
[10:08]<mnzmzjjv>`html td
[10:08]<rtfs>html td: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/tables.html#edef-TD
[10:08]<mnzmzjjv>rabeldable: in XHTML, you must use nowrap="nowrap"
[10:08]<mnzmzjjv>in HTML, you can use just nowrap
[10:09]<mnzmzjjv>however, nowrap isn't defined in both HTML or XHTML (guessing)
[10:11]<mnzmzjjv>err... deprecated
[10:48]<mnzmzjjv>`css border-style
[10:48]<rtfs>css border-style: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#propdef-border-style
[11:21]<mrvbjd>Hi All !
[11:22]<mrvbjd>I'm trying to position a layer fomr left to right with as base the middle of the screen... this is possible wasn't it ? Because I doubt about myself at the moment.
[11:26]<gjss>"layer" is one of those terms we avoid.
[11:27]<mrvbjd>noss, why ?
[11:27]<mrvbjd>how do you want to discribe it then ?
[11:29]<gjss>dunno, since layer is ambiguous. it mostly show that the person using the term either has a huge history using WYSIWYG tools or have been making webpages back in the IE&Netscape craphtml days.
[11:30]<mrvbjd>noss, sorry... but everyone has his own way... but what is your way then ? Tables or something ?
[11:30]<mrvbjd>you need some positioning
[11:30]<gjss>layer means nothing.
[11:30]<gjss>that is what im saying.
[11:31]<mrvbjd>noss, indeed... we are also dust :P
[11:31]<gjss>html has no layers, css has no layers. yet it is something you are trying to position.
[11:31]<mrvbjd>did I say that html had it ? You can use it in html-code
[11:31]<gjss>are you using netscape LAYER tags? (or if it was IE that had/has them.)
[11:32]<mrvbjd>so my qustion is quite clear
[11:32]<mrvbjd>noss, I need to position a transparent png over another image
[11:33]<gjss>use css then, absolute positioning. you're restricted to position relative to the parent block element, since IE doesnt support the full intent of css.
[11:34]<gjss>FF will position it relative to the containing box, and you want the parent to be one, so you give it "position: relative" and it will become one.
[11:34]<mrvbjd>noss, but how can I use something that does not work in IE ?
[11:34]<gjss>oh, you shouldnt.
[11:34]<gjss>that's why im saying what you should do.
[11:34]<mrvbjd>ah ok
[11:35]<mrvbjd>what I have is that IE positions it right an FF positions it about 40 px more to the right
[11:35]<gjss>yah, probably relative to different boxes.
[11:35]<gjss>`css position
[11:35]<rtfs>css position: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#propdef-position
[11:36]<mrvbjd>noss, indeed, must be something like that
[11:36]<mrvbjd>thanks !

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