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[00:32]<swydzz>how do I make a <ul> so that its flush left? what is the setting I need to change?
[00:33]<gzznvxzdzds>margin-left and padding-left
[00:33]<swydzz>oh, margin LEFT
[00:33]<swydzz>ah...didn't think of that
[00:34]<swydzz>actually, yes I did LOL
[00:35]<swydzz>but it doesn't work....it is still indented
[00:35]<gzznvxzdzds>also on the li
[00:35]<swydzz>oh, I had it on the il only
[00:35]<swydzz>li
[00:35]<swydzz>i have <ul style="margin:0;padding:0;"> <li style="margin:0;padding:0;">
[00:36]<swydzz>doesn't seem to work
[00:36]<swydzz>its inside a table....does that matter?
[00:36]<swydzz>forget it, it worked
[00:36]<swydzz>to apply to all the <li> do I just use class?
[00:37]<gzznvxzdzds>no
[00:37]<gzznvxzdzds>you just use li
[00:37]<gzznvxzdzds>in the CSS
[00:38]<swydzz>and that effects all <li> in the page?
[00:38]<swydzz>what if you have more that one li style?
[00:38]<gzznvxzdzds>`css selectors
[00:38]<rtfs>css selectors: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/selector.html
[00:49]<swydzz>GarethAdams: now the buttons are further left than the <p>title</p> I have, why is that?
[00:50]<gzznvxzdzds>swimrr: probably because there's a margin or padding on the <p>?
[00:50]<swydzz>no, I zeroed them out
[00:50]<swydzz>its inside a table, could that be?
[00:54]<gzznvxzdzds>why is it inside a table?
[00:56]<swydzz>lol - its an old layout
[00:56]<swydzz>i know i know...tables are not for layout
[00:56]<swydzz>hehe
[00:56]<swydzz>but i've been testing it outside the table - margin-left and padding-left = 0 take out the bullets
[01:08]<swydzz>ok - how can I have a list and have the title right above it flush with the buttons
[01:11]<swydzz>ahah - set margin-left to 1em
[01:26]<swydzz>is there anyway to tone down the bullets so they don't look bolded?
[01:34]<20rv>swimrr: You could decrease the font size of the li while increasing it to compensate on an element inside
[01:34]<20rv>or do list-style-type: circle;
[01:35]<swydzz>thanks
[01:35]<swydzz>guess what - I have it setup beautifully using 1em for FF, but in IE it cuts off half the circle
[01:35]<swydzz>f#@king IE
[01:36]<swydzz>had to set it to 1.15em - lol -go figure
[01:46]<zzvnzmumn>sup guys
[01:57]<zzvnzmumn>why is the Center tag depracated? I know this might be a FAQ
[02:04]<pgzsjg>Anyone know an irc room that deals with answering legal questions?
[02:06]<xrllmmumn>#IANAL
[03:46]<vyzusdjvnev>i got a question. I want to create a tab box and when a user clicks on a tab it shows content. when the user clicks on a new tab it shows different text in that one spot how can i do that?
[03:47]<aw0l_>I'd like to create a background with a rapid fade effect on the edges of the content
[03:47]<aw0l_>to make the content stand out
[03:48]<aw0l_>look 3d
[03:48]<aw0l_>a lot of web pages have this - is there an easy way to accomplish it?
[03:48]<vyzusdjvnev>Aw0L, can i see what it looks like?
[03:57]<aw0l_>VirusDotNET, sure, brb
[03:58]<aw0l_>VirusDotNET, http://www.openwebdesign.org/design/2875/MultiFlex11/
[03:59]<aw0l_>the fade gives it almost a shadowed effect
[03:59]<vyzusdjvnev>Aoh around the design?
[03:59]<aw0l_>yeah, around the content
[03:59]<vyzusdjvnev>its a background image :)
[04:00]<vyzusdjvnev>get photoshop :)
[04:00]<aw0l_>yeah, but I'm having some difficulty doing it
[04:00]<aw0l_>photoshop doesn't run on linux ;)
[04:00]<vyzusdjvnev>i can do it. its easy :)
[04:00]<aw0l_>with photoshop?
[04:00]<vyzusdjvnev>yuppers
[04:00]<aw0l_>the gimp doesn't want to play nice
[04:00]<vyzusdjvnev>i don't like gimp :)
[04:00]<aw0l_>I'm unexperienced with both
[04:00]<aw0l_>is there a term for that?
[04:01]<aw0l_>that kind of fading on both ends?
[04:01]<vyzusdjvnev>im some what expierenced with photoshop
[04:01]<vyzusdjvnev>yeah
[04:01]<aw0l_>what, fading?
[04:01]<vyzusdjvnev>yuppers
[04:01]<aw0l_>right
[04:01]<aw0l_>well thanks
[04:01]<vyzusdjvnev>ill show you two of my images i made with photoshop
[04:01]<aw0l_>the gimp guys couldn't help me, I guess I"m off to google it
[04:01]<aw0l_>ok
[04:02]<aw0l_>I bet I'll have to use layers in gimp
[04:02]<vyzusdjvnev>http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6142/kirynyodauj2.jpg
[04:02]<vyzusdjvnev>http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4237/kirynasianvd6.jpg
[04:03]<vyzusdjvnev>just tell me how wide your content page is
[04:03]<vyzusdjvnev>and what colours
[04:04]<aw0l_>#bdbdbd is my regular background
[04:04]<aw0l_>I'd like to fade from #666666
[04:05]<vyzusdjvnev>Aw0L, just give me a few minutes
[04:05]<aw0l_>okay, thanks!
[04:05]<aw0l_>I would like to figure this out in gimp
[04:06]<vyzusdjvnev>oh you never told me how wide your site is
[04:06]<aw0l_>whoops
[04:06]<aw0l_>the content is 700px
[04:06]<vyzusdjvnev>okay
[04:06]<vyzusdjvnev>brb
[04:19]<vyzusdjvnev>try it
[04:19]<vyzusdjvnev>i hope i didn't fuck up >.<
[04:19]<aw0l_>lol, thanks
[04:19]<vyzusdjvnev>np dude. I don't mind helping people out
[04:19]<aw0l_>now I have to figure out where it saved to...
[04:20]<vyzusdjvnev>whatcha using?
[04:20]<aw0l_>xchat
[04:20]<aw0l_>I found it
[04:20]<vyzusdjvnev>my documents

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