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[00:15]<gjss>what? im not alone leaving #web ? :)
[01:00]<eniacq>can someone post a link to the best ASP tutorials?
[01:14]<axnssrud>http://www.google.com/search?q=asp%20tutorials
[01:33]<rvgrtn>random: http://www.skammich.com/ :D
[03:15]<grdn>hey
[03:15]<grdn>My PHP scripts returns a number, can i somehow use that number in a html page?
[03:18]<svjgncdlxnz>php is embedded into html
[03:18]<svjgncdlxnz><html><head><title>example</title></head><body><?php echo file_get_contents('http://foo/otherscript.php'); ?></body></html>
[03:22]<grdn>StoneCypher: tn
[03:22]<grdn>tnx
[03:22]<grdn>hope that'll work in a wiki too :)
[03:25]<grdn>I did a rating script
[03:25]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>i read the old messages here and found that there are #web #css in freenode
[03:25]<grdn>there is
[03:25]<grdn>?
[03:25]<grdn>isn't #web == #html
[03:25]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>what other channels are actually in freenode???
[03:26]<wjjsvr>no
[03:26]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>about writing web sites
[03:26]<wjjsvr>DavidHKMrPowers: bazillions
[03:26]<wjjsvr>Ahh
[03:26]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>:)
[03:26]<wjjsvr>#javascript would be the other biggie
[03:26]<wjjsvr>name: #web is about web technologies in general. Like wysiwyg editors, CMSes, flash etc
[03:26]<wjjsvr>#html is about html
[03:27]<wjjsvr>Actually .. I lie .. #web is about telling you you're wrong about basically everything just for the sake of pedantry
[03:28]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>Woosta : can tell me how to colspan a whole row?
[03:28]<wjjsvr>why would you need to do that?
[03:29]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>to make a header , say...title
[03:29]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>is colspan="9999999" the only method?
[03:29]<wjjsvr>That's what <caption> is for
[03:29]<wjjsvr>DON'T DO THAT
[03:30]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>why??
[03:30]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>i write colspan="100" usually and found that there were really some problems..
[03:30]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>couldn't figurw out the reasons..
[03:30]<wjjsvr>Because (1) your table doesn't ahve 99999999 columns (2) it's the wrong place to put a header (3) it will add weird extra padding to the right of your table
[03:30]<wjjsvr>Use <caption>
[03:31]<wjjsvr>(oh, and I'm quietly assuming this is all for tabulated data?)
[03:32]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>yes
[03:32]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>full of numbers
[03:32]<wjjsvr>Then use caption
[03:32]<wjjsvr>`html caption
[03:32]<rtfs>html caption: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/tables.html#edef-CAPTION
[03:34]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>Woosta : i hv one more question
[03:35]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>i have a <hr> in one caption and want to make it always 100% of the screen
[03:35]<wjjsvr>a horiz rule inside a caption???
[03:35]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>want to make a separator in a table
[03:36]<svjgncdlxnz>so set the bottom borders of some cells
[03:36]<svjgncdlxnz><hr> doesn't belong in a table
[03:36]<wjjsvr>^^ ++
[03:36]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>donesn't belong?? i can use <hr> in table...
[03:36]<wjjsvr>And you can use a wrench to bang in a nail
[03:37]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>:(
[03:37]<svjgncdlxnz>set the bottom borders of the cells in question
[03:37]<svjgncdlxnz>done
[03:37]<svjgncdlxnz>what the problem, yo
[03:37]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>ok, now if is another case
[03:37]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>it is a picture row
[03:39]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>do I have to terminate a table and create a width="100%" table for that and then create a new table to contnue my previous one?
[03:39]<svjgncdlxnz>wtf is a picture row
[03:39]<wjjsvr>Mmm .. smelling more and more like tables-for-layout
[03:40]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>it is a little .gif with a width of 100% of screen
[03:40]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>tables-for-layout is a new thing?
[03:40]<svjgncdlxnz>oh god.
[03:40]<svjgncdlxnz>where you write web pages, is kurt kobain still alive?
[03:41]<svjgncdlxnz>i'd really like to talk to him, and since you seem to be trapped in 1996, i figure maybe this is the way
[03:41]<wjjsvr>lol
[03:41]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>i relied on dreamweaver before ...
[03:42]<svjgncdlxnz>why does that not surprise me
[03:42]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>turned to writing html in this month
[03:42]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>i mean writing every html tags
[03:43]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>i would do this: one row is a caption and table is width="100%"
[03:44]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>however, all <td> in other rows would be expanded
[03:44]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>I add a <td width="100%> at the end of each row
[03:45]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>is that the correct method?
[03:46]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>StoneCypher, Woosta : help please!
[03:48]<svjgncdlxnz>hush
[03:56]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>StoneCypher : what did you mean by "hush" ?
[04:25]<cr2ume>if i have a table of a single column
[04:25]<cr2ume>and 1 of the rows overflows the column width
[04:25]<cr2ume>is there anyway to make the other rows retain the original width
[04:25]<cr2ume>cause the one overflowed row expands the entire column and effects all rows...
[04:26]<cr2ume>or is there a way to stop the overflow?
[04:37]<sjhrn006>grr i hate copy pasting html files and changing names and titles, any solution to this? :(
[04:38]<wg22gg>SoHaN007, why would you copy/paste html and change name and title?
[04:39]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>write a template
[04:40]<sjhrn006>how? :s
[04:40]<sjhrn006>with what?
[04:40]<sjhrn006>i just know basic html and a bit of css
[04:41]<wg22gg>SoHaN007: learn PHP
[04:41]<sjhrn006>you mean php and mysql?
[04:42]<wjjsvr>eh?
[04:43]<wjjsvr>Did he SAY anything about mysql?
[04:43]<wjjsvr>I don't even understand what you're tring to do
[04:43]<sjhrn006>i thot you could download them as a pack :P
