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[04:44]<sjhrn006>anyways any suggestion where i can start from?
[04:44]<wjjsvr>[11:40] <Woosta> I don't even understand what you're tring to do
[04:45]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>Woosta : can you answer my 100% with row proboem?
[04:45]<wjjsvr>no
[04:45]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>why?
[04:46]<wjjsvr>Because you seem to be trying to do layout in tables
[04:46]<sjhrn006>Woosta> i was designing this website of about 10pages... i had the same design in every page but contents were just different like the texts were, but it had the same navigation menu and everything so i had to change the title and contents for like 15pages seperately
[04:46]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>SoHaN007 : you have many pages which have similar layout right?
[04:46]<sjhrn006>err 10-15pages i dont even remeber im so confused
[04:46]<sjhrn006>DavidHKMrPowers> yes
[04:46]<wjjsvr>Either use a CMS (often a good solution), or use some custom PHP
[04:47]<wjjsvr>Or use SSI
[04:47]<sjhrn006>PHP is a better solution
[04:48]<wjjsvr>riiight
[04:48]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>Woosta : this chan is not for layout?
[04:48]<wjjsvr>So .. why did you ask?
[04:48]<wjjsvr>TABLES aren't for layout
[04:48]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>what are for layouts?
[04:49]<wjjsvr>Basically anything else .. see the link in the topic
[04:50]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>really difficult..
[04:52]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>SoHaN007 : use PGP to output some html as your design, but put variables in the text/title that varies
[04:52]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>PHP
[04:54]<sjhrn006>arrite
[04:54]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>SoHaN007 : try this basic thing. write in a php file : <?php $title="abc"; echo"<title>$title</title>"; ?>
[04:55]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>change abc to whatever you like
[04:55]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>SoHaN007 : ##php would help
[04:56]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>oh, you are already in ##php :)
[04:56]<sjhrn006>yes
[05:17]<mrvvwq1>i need a code that plays an mp3 on the background of a page. the music comes from a url
[05:19]<mrmfyfjv>why do you want to inflict noise on your visitors?
[05:20]<mrvvwq1>beacuse :)
[05:20]<mrvvwq1>nvm
[05:30]<znzjs>one down, all of myspace to go Woosta
[05:31]<wjjsvr>lol
[05:44]<pjrjs>hi... what parameter i need to modify to make a space betwen the table and the web navigator, starting from the corner... of this
[07:38]<cxzogx>it is possible to have multiple submit buttons per form correct ?
[07:39]<20rv>Yes
[08:37]<suv9w9>can you recommend one of the revised image replacements which has no problems with css-on-images-off and screen readers?
[09:13]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>how to set the width of the last <td> to let it occupy all the empty space left in a <table>, not to use width="100%"?
[09:15]<cjddzgdlzjdlv> `html colspan @ DavidHKMrPowers
[09:15]<cjddzgdlzjdlv> `attr colspan @ DavidHKMrPowers
[09:16]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>`html attr colspan @ DavidHKMrPowers
[09:16]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>hehe
[09:16]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>CommandPrompt : what??
[09:16]<20rv>Attributes aren't indexed.
[09:17]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>CommandPrompt : could you please explain?
[09:17]<rfvvydn>Anyone know what it's called when you click a link, and something appears out of nowhere and drops down on the 'current' page? I believe Google uses it, I'm trying to google it so I can figure out how to do it, but not sure what it's called
[09:17]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>DavidHKMrPowers: <td colspan="5"> if you have only 5 columns in all :)
[09:17]<rfvvydn>For example, a "more info" link on a form, that when clicked, drops down another section of the form to fill out
[09:18]<wjjsvr>apple's UI does that .. not seen it on Google .. but it wouldn't be too hard
[09:18]<rfvvydn>I've seen it on a couple of web pages; not many, though
[09:18]<wjjsvr>you set it to position absolute (or better, but not supported on IE: float)
[09:19]<wjjsvr>Then you position the element off the top of the window
[09:19]<wjjsvr>And set a timer to move it onto the window
[09:19]<wjjsvr>(if you want it annimated that is ..)
[09:20]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>ahemm, that'd be js
[09:21]<rfvvydn>yeah?
[09:21]<rfvvydn>wasn't sure if it was that, or dhtml
[09:21]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>alttime: so called 'layers' or 'layering', is implementable in css, but can be a bit css and markup, while in js is fairly straight out
[09:21]<wjjsvr>wtf is dhtml when it's at home as apposed to when it's JS?
[09:22]<cjddzgdlzjdlv>alttime: the same technique/method is used with [+] or [-] stuff, more or less, you can probably find it in google under 'layers' or 'collapsible menus'
[09:24]<rfvvydn>awesome, thanks.
[09:32]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>CommandPrompt : please help!! I want to do this, please take a look. http://pastebin.ca/121851
[09:52]<mnzmzjjv>DavidHKMrPowers: just specify a width for the first two columns
[09:54]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>deadroot : thanks, how would you write to make a whole row? <caption> doesn't work, i use colspan="100", is there any other method?
[09:57]<mnzmzjjv>a whole row? what do you mean by that?
[09:58]<wjjsvr>hehehe .. welcome to the quicksand deadroot
[09:58]<mnzmzjjv>^^;
[10:01]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>deadroot,Woosta : please take a look at http://pastebin.ca/121851 to help!!
[10:01]<zjw>Is there a tool just to check if tags are all closed, not if the html is valid?
[10:02]<20rv>`validation @ row
[10:02]<rtfs>row, validation: Validate at http://validator.w3.org/ for (X)HTML, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ for CSS
[10:02]<mnzmzjjv>DavidHKMrPowers: perhaps some HTML markup from you would make more sense
[10:03]<mnzmzjjv>... <tr><td colspan="3">Please remember to sign your name before leaving</td></tr>
[10:04]<mnzmzjjv>i think it's an exam score sheet
[10:05]<mnzmzjjv>so it's tabular, 'cept for the last bit
[10:12]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>thanks, guys
[10:12]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>i still don't know what the layout thing is
[10:12]<mnzmzjjv>it'd look more professional if you separate the last bit from the <table>
[10:12]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>it is very very very new to me
[10:13]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>deadroot : delete it?
[10:14]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>the whole row needs to occupy the whole screen width
[10:14]<mnzmzjjv><table></table><p>please...</p>
[11:21]<s0rzrvns>hi, i'm trying to make the image in this site local-culture.com centered, how can I do so?
[11:22]<2fygm>center it.
[11:23]<s0rzrvns>how can i do that with html?
[11:23]<rvgrtn>http://exchange.bevede.nl:81/~ticket/ <- login as test/test, go to the ticket system, select one from the OPEN, for some reason, when viewed in IE the 2 boxes on the right are below the actual content box... altho in FF it works as it should be...
[11:23]<s0rzrvns>is there some sort of align keyword or something?
[11:23]<2fygm><center>
[11:23]<rvgrtn>any ideas? ^^
[11:23]<s0rzrvns>ah center.. ok thanks
[11:24]<s0rzrvns>thank you so very much, I knew it was something that easy, have a goodnight
[11:25]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>how to disable auto expansion of <td>?
[11:25]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs> I have this : <table width="100%"><tr><td width="10">Hello</td><td></td></tr></table>
[11:25]<20rv>table-layout: fixed;
[11:25]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>but the Hello <td> becomes very wide
[11:26]<mzvymhkmzpjwnzs>b0at : "fixed" would make every <td> mix together







