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[00:16]<cjmgrug>Question : Anybody here display ads from google's adsense on their website?
[00:48]<[mm]sgylnz>how do I get my flash menu to align on the left edge
[00:48]<[mm]sgylnz>i need it all the way over and i cant get it to go over there
[00:48]<[mm]sgylnz>--
[00:48]<znysyj>link?
[00:49]<[mm]sgylnz>http://www.clan-annihilation.com/contents.htm
[00:50]<znysyj>[MM]Sniper: body { margin: 0; padding: 0; }
[00:51]<znysyj>[MM]Sniper: btw, this is the proper way to embed Flash: http://reisio.com/temp/flash/
[00:51]<znysyj>and I hope you're going to have a doctype and valid markup in the end...
[00:51]<znysyj>`doctype html @ [MM]Sniper
[00:51]<rtfs>[MM]Sniper, doctype html: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
[00:51]<znysyj>`validators @ [MM]Sniper
[00:51]<rtfs>[MM]Sniper, validators: Validate at http://validator.w3.org/ for (X)HTML, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ for CSS
[00:51]<[mm]sgylnz>yea, I didnt ask for the other stuff
[00:52]<znysyj>I didn't say you did
[01:10]<znysyj>[MM]Sniper: oh, btw
[01:10]<znysyj>[MM]Sniper: you don't need Flash for a menu that simple at all :/
[01:10]<znysyj>`rollover @ [MM]Sniper
[01:10]<rtfs>[MM]Sniper, rollover: http://wellstyled.com/css-nopreload-rollovers.html , http://devilock.mine.nu/pixie/ , http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/05/navigation-matrix-reloaded/
[01:50]<zzjjgy>hey folks, how do i escape the < and > characters
[01:50]<zzjjgy>if i want them to appear with html
[02:02]<rudjdrrya>is anyone here familiar with XForms? I'm wondering if they did anything, for arrays of data
[02:13]<zu2gg>Hi, what is the way to use a <input type="text" ..> more long?
[02:13]<rudjdrrya>ruben, multiline?
[02:13]<zu2gg>well, no
[02:13]<zu2gg>-------------- by default, I want ------------------------------
[02:14]<zu2gg>or something like this
[02:14]<rudjdrrya>width?
[02:14]<rudjdrrya>in css?
[02:14]<zu2gg>uhnnm can I use width?
[02:15]<rudjdrrya>y.
[02:15]<zu2gg>hey, I have find a nice attribute calles 'size'
[02:15]<zu2gg>thanks!
[05:48]<2r2j>what do you call that element in html that lets you automatically scroll down to a certain part of the page ... #part1 ... ?
[05:49]<mnzmzjjv>babo: the old and reliable way is to use <a name="position_name">
[05:50]<mnzmzjjv>the new way is to use the id attributes. eg: <div id="title">
[05:50]<mnzmzjjv>where the "file.html#title" should bring you to it
[05:52]<2r2j>cool thanks ...
[06:48]<rgvyxa1>anyone know of a way with eather js + activex or somehting else to request information from a users digital cert in IE (all client side scripting) my direction is approving order forms with digital signature
[06:49]<mnzmzjjv>that doesn't sound like how digital signatures are supposed to be implemented, from what little i know
[06:54]<rgvyxa1>i know adobe has a digital signature but i cant use that in an html doc :( and i figure if there is a way to get data then most of the order form can be filled out automatic, all this is running from a share drive (no backend) which is what makes this all so hard
[06:55]<rgvyxa1>but i got the database connection with js + adodb accessing ms access db
[06:55]<rgvyxa1>so that was big leap
[07:04]<mnzmzjjv>for what purpose is that?
[07:05]<rgvyxa1>to have a history of orders so we a query on them based on item, manuf, etc
[07:06]<rgvyxa1>and one central location for requesting items instead of siffing thought a buch of paper
[07:06]<mnzmzjjv>it sounds a bit of an overkill...
[07:07]<rgvyxa1>yea prob is but if i can get it all working it would be pretty cool
[07:08]<mnzmzjjv>do you require the non-repudiation that digital certs provide?
[07:08]<rgvyxa1>pluse we have buillding over about 30 mile radius so things get a little funny then too
[07:09]<mnzmzjjv>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-repudiation
[07:10]<rgvyxa1>basicly i what i was realy looking for is when a user clicks on approve, it promps for user to select cert then it askes for password (if correct then return name) name is then inserted in db as approved
[07:13]<rgvyxa1>we all use a CAC Card for loging into the network and our digital certificates are added to IE from it etc
[07:15]<mnzmzjjv>i don't think that's how digital signatures are supposed to be used. and i think that since you're only storing the name in the database, you don't really need the digital signatures. because your security's weak link is that only the name is stored in the database
[07:21]<rgvyxa1>true, well could a somthing better to it, but i am not sure this is even possable accessing these certs yet so i am going with little stuff untell i can figure out the best way of doing things
[07:29]<mnzmzjjv>what kind of security would you like?
[07:30]<rgvyxa1>well the biggest problems is there is no server so i can not run in ssl but there is nothing i can do about that
[07:31]<mnzmzjjv>so it's all a bunch of standalone apps?
[07:31]<rgvyxa1>yes
[07:32]<mnzmzjjv>good luck
[07:32]<rgvyxa1>hehe, thanks been googling for a few days now :(
[07:33]<mnzmzjjv>is there a database server?
[07:34]<rgvyxa1>nope just a MS access database
[07:34]<mnzmzjjv>a single access database? or copies in all the standalones?
[07:34]<rgvyxa1>which i can connect a query and insert into already
[07:35]<rgvyxa1>one
[07:36]<mnzmzjjv>so it's a HTML+ActiveX+JS/VBscript+MS Access system?
[07:36]<rgvyxa1>Yep
[07:37]<mnzmzjjv>why can't you get a web server?
[07:38]<mnzmzjjv>you may want to try asking this in channels that deal with vbscript, activex and access
[07:38]<rgvyxa1>not fully for sure why, but the ppl above me keep telling me no
[07:38]<rgvyxa1>ok will see if i can find such a channel :D
[07:39]<mnzmzjjv>then perhaps your mental model of the security architecture is wrong?
[07:40]<rgvyxa1>deadroot: i agree , but not me "them" and thay are more stuburn then i am
[07:41]<rgvyxa1>i am about to say no, with this little project
[07:42]<mnzmzjjv>i see
[07:45]<pfraaym>!forms
[07:47]<pfraaym>how do you correctly label radio buttons
[07:48]<mnzmzjjv><label for="buttonId">label</label><input type="radio" id="buttonID">
[07:49]<pfraaym>how does it work with more than 1 option?
[07:50]<pfraaym>1 label per input?
[07:53]<pfraaym>w3c example is without a label and uses <br> ! http://www.w3.org/TR/html40/interact/forms.html#h-17.9.1
[07:56]<mnzmzjjv>1 label per input
[07:57]<pfraaym>w3c example doesn't do it like that:
[07:57]<pfraaym><INPUT type="radio" name="sex" value="Male"> Male<BR> <INPUT type="radio" name="sex" value="Female"> Female<BR> <INPUT type="submit" value="Send"> <INPUT type="reset">
[07:57]<pfraaym>they don't use a label for this situation
[08:03]<mnzmzjjv>they were lazy i guess.
[08:03]<mnzmzjjv>i would use a label for that
[08:25]<pfraaym>deadroot: if i do 1 per input, then what element do i use for the question?
[08:26]<pfraaym>ie. do you like html a. yes b. no
[08:26]<pfraaym>labels = a and b
[08:26]<pfraaym>what about the actual question for the input
[08:26]<pfraaym>i thought that is what the label is meant to be for
[08:33]<xufcxzys>whats the html code for »?
[08:36]<xufcxzys>nm found it, »
