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[02:51]<nnvrnx>reisio: I want it but I'm tired of frying harddrives
[02:51]<znysyj>kinabalu: try using em or 'small', etc.
[02:52]<cygr2rfu>reisio, the textfield i've tried looks great .. nice and large ..
[02:52]<cygr2rfu>reisio, where would i use that? surrounding the textarea?
[02:53]<cygr2rfu>reisio, hrmm .. just updated to 1.5.0.6 .. seems to look okay now .. hrmm
[02:53]<znysyj>kinabalu: ah :)
[02:53]<znysyj>what version were you at?
[02:53]<cygr2rfu>1.5.0.4
[02:53]<znysyj>weird
[02:53]<cygr2rfu>yea
[02:54]<myrxrrnf>Hi
[02:55]<myrxrrnf>Does frames are still used to get static menus ?
[02:56]<xuxfyr>is it possible to integrate XHTML into an existing HTML document. Via Template or something similer
[02:56]<znysyj>Michaael: SSI is a better notion
[02:57]<nnvrnx>reisio: any ideas para me?
[02:57]<nnvrnx>reisio: or no:P
[02:57]<xuxfyr>so I can integrate XSLT into an existing HTML document rather then on its own
[02:57]<znysyj>Michaael: ask #apache about it, or ##php if you use PHP, or #{insertlanguage}
[02:57]<nnvrnx>reisio: #php is deathly quiet
[02:57]<znysyj>huhlig: you can use XSLT to transform XHTML to HTML, sure
[02:57]<znysyj>Nevaeh: 1min
[02:57]<nnvrnx>;)
[02:58]<myrxrrnf>reisio: SII is something server-side for Apache ?
[02:58]<xuxfyr>reisio, I have an HTML page built, I want it to use the XML+XSLT to fill in a "news section"
[02:58]<znysyj>Michaael: server side includes
[02:58]<xuxfyr>do I need to convert the entire HTML page into XGTML
[02:58]<xuxfyr>XHTML
[02:58]<znysyj>Michaael: Apache supports a basic form and most web languages have provisions to do them more simply/complexly
[02:58]<znysyj>huhlig: I thought you wanted to go from XHTML to HTML
[02:59]<znysyj>Nevaeh: what's the problem with this code now?
[02:59]<xuxfyr>reisio, I have an existing HTML page. I want in a particular Table cell to have it take te XML info for the latest news, and export it as if it was coded in html normally
[03:00]<znysyj>huhlig: k, then you probably want to transform it to HTML and insert it with some form of SSI
[03:00]<znysyj>huhlig: should probably be in #web for this
[03:01]<xuxfyr>reisio, Im trying not to do SSI and CGI
[03:01]<xuxfyr>I can do a perl CGI like the pack of my hand
[03:01]<znysyj>huhlig: why's that?
[03:01]<xuxfyr>reisio, no perl access
[03:01]<nnvrnx>reisio: nothin git works fine, if you wanted to have some sort of privacy... I'm wanting to remove the wp_roles, thing so that guest will be able to see what the php script echos... meaning guest who just come to the site like you... who aren't logged can see it... right now you have to be logged in and your user group has to be in the streaming group to see this area of the menu
[03:02]<znysyj>huhlig: well if you have to I s'pose you could do an iframe
[03:02]<znysyj>Nevaeh: k that's beyond me :p ask #web for someone that knows PHP
[03:03]<xuxfyr>Iframe?
[03:04]<znysyj>`html iframe @ huhlig
[03:04]<rtfs>huhlig, html iframe: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/present/frames.html#edef-IFRAME
[03:04]<wjjsvr>Or .. ask in ##php?
[03:04]<xuxfyr>Woosta, me?
[03:04]<wjjsvr>Whoever is having PHP problems :)
[03:04]<nnvrnx>lol
[03:05]<nnvrnx>:P its deathly quiet in there ;-)
[03:17]<bnxy>hi again
[03:17]<bnxy>how can I change the text of the "Browse..." button for a file input element?
[03:17]<znysyj>Behi: input[type="file"] { font: ...
[03:18]<znysyj>does IE support attribute selectors?
[03:18]<mygy2jv>reisio: No, it doesn't support [attr]. - http://www.webdevout.net/browser_support_css.php#support-css2selectors-attribute
[03:18]<bnxy>reisio: I don't want to change the font
[03:18]<znysyj>oh the text
[03:18]<bnxy>reisio: I want to change the text of the browse button which is 'Browse...' to say 'Select...'
[03:18]<znysyj>do you want this to work in IE?
[03:19]<bnxy>yes actually
[03:19]<znysyj>hummm
[03:19]<znysyj>well you can certainly use JavaScript, but
[03:19]<bnxy>JavaScript is fine...
[03:19]<znysyj>you could probably get away with setting opacity: 0; on the input and putting any text you want underneath it
[03:19]<bnxy>I'm currently using scriptaculous... so JS doesn't introduce problems for me
[03:20]<bnxy>oh... so it seems that there's not an attribute or something for changing the text, right?
[03:21]<znysyj>it's one of the hardest elements to style/alter
[03:22]<znysyj>if you do some searching on 'javascript form controls css' you should find some stuff
[03:22]<bnxy>it seems so :(
[03:22]<bnxy>ok, thanks a lot anyway
[03:42]<nnvrnx>reisio: okay I just cut out all the code that decided that and it worked... question how can I keep that from refreshing everytime I click a link?
[03:42]<nnvrnx>reisio: http://heavensreality.com
[03:46]<wd_zzlvjz>Hey, check this out http://www.davidlemcoe.com/crash
[03:46]<wd_zzlvjz>now
[03:46]<wd_zzlvjz>click on that and IE crashes
[03:47]<wd_zzlvjz>I promise, no perminet damage
[03:48]<xuxfyr>reisio, quick question -> <img src="<xsl:for-each:value-of select="icon"/>"> <- This is wrong, Any way to fix it?
[03:48]<znysyj>most things are fixable
[03:48]<znysyj>I'm ignorant of such things, however
[03:48]<xuxfyr>ahh
[03:48]<xuxfyr>foo
[03:49]<znysyj>Nevaeh: keep the page from refreshing when you click a link?
[04:01]<nnvrnx>reisio: keep the radio from refreshing...
[04:01]<nnvrnx>reisio: hell I guess even the whole nav bar
[04:01]<znysyj>ah
[04:02]<znysyj>same
[04:02]<nnvrnx>reisio: and wtf is up with the alignment in IE lol its horrible
[04:07]<mnp2dvn>simple question: if i have 3 words in a line how to make one text-align=left the second centered and the last right (if i want to have them in a single line and word1 is <a></a> w2 is <p></p> and w3 is again <a> ??
[04:07]<nnvrnx>`html iframe
[04:07]<rtfs>html iframe: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/present/frames.html#edef-IFRAME
[04:08]<znysyj>defbyte: floats or absolute positioning
[04:08]<znysyj>whichever
[04:11]<nnvrnx>shit. I so messed it up..
[04:40]<zzfnsvdj|zdyvvnz>hi. when scaling images to relative sizes via the width attribute or via width from css i could either scale them to a relative size of the windoe (via e.g. 50%) or relatively to the text size (e.g. via 10em),... is it possible to have both at the same time,.. relatively to window size AND font size?
[04:43]<nfuunfus>is there a way to append part of a text file into html?
[04:43]<nfuunfus>on the fly?
[04:46]<znysyj>equuelus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Side_Includes
[06:04]<myrxrrnf>I am trying to validate a page with the W3C validator with HTML 4.01 Strict. One of the error was that I hadn't put the attribute ALT in an image tag, so I added it and now I get an error on attribute ALT not existing

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