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[19:09]<wg22gg>that says, if the user has not specified a different font, use the following fonts in order of preference if their own the user's system
[19:09]<wg22gg>ending with a generic option, in case the user has none of those fonts
[19:09]<wg22gg>of course, such a rule is irrelevant anyway if your site is used with an alternative user agent such as Jaws or ELinks
[19:10]<wg22gg>Legend: stop thinking like a print designer, start thinking like a web developer :)
[19:10]<wg22gg>Legend: having said all that, you can make sites look similar in Firefox and IE within various limitations
[19:11]<wg22gg>Legend: most easily by restricting yourself to HTML 4.01 + CSS1
[19:11]<fzjdtj>Webben: I assume I have the same fonts on my system. but konqueror and firefox are getting the sizes of fonts (not the fonts themselves) differently
[19:11]<wg22gg>more complexly by knowing your browsers' capabilities very well
[19:11]<lgrggm>I wanted to do it like this though
[19:11]<lgrggm>I don't see how I could do it in HTML
[19:11]<wg22gg>FromTO, yep: browsers/platforms/users etc interpret sizing differently
[19:11]<lgrggm>without having to reload the page several times.
[19:11]<wg22gg>what?
[19:11]<wg22gg>not sure what you're talking about there?
[19:12]<lgrggm>Ok
[19:12]<wg22gg>do it like what? reload for what?
[19:12]<lgrggm>On the left side, are the world #s.
[19:12]<lgrggm>When someone clicks a #
[19:12]<lgrggm>it loads the page on the right
[19:12]<wg22gg>oh sorry i was confusing you with FromTO
[19:12]<lgrggm>if they want to change to a different game world, they click another
[19:12]<lgrggm>and it loads on the right.
[19:12]<lgrggm>lol
[19:12]<wg22gg>how about iframe?
[19:13]<wg22gg>not that it's good
[19:14]<wg22gg>why would someone not just use some bookmarks?
[19:14]<wg22gg>i can't imagine why anyone would choose to be subjected to frames a menu and ads
[19:23]<lgrggm>:S
[19:23]<wg22gg>Legend: are these world things not bookmarkable?
[19:24]<lgrggm>If you bookmarkable all 100 of them
[19:24]<lgrggm>there's 4 versions as well
[19:24]<lgrggm>so thats about 400 bookmarks
[19:24]<wg22gg>i see
[19:24]<lgrggm>free 2 play: hi detail, low
[19:24]<lgrggm>pay to play: hi, low
[19:24]<lgrggm>so yeah my frame on the left was meant to be able to switch fast.
[19:25]<lgrggm>and then I would have one google ad at the top :\
[19:25]<wg22gg>Legend: why wouldn't someone just keep a bookmark of your page
[19:25]<wg22gg>and go to it to change worlds?
[19:25]<lgrggm>That's lame :(
[19:25]<wg22gg>rather than having your paraphenalia surrounding their game the whole time
[19:25]<lgrggm>If they stay on my page = good.
[19:26]<lgrggm>lol
[19:26]<lgrggm>I was going to give away free gold that's why
[19:26]<wg22gg>Legend: yes but there's no way to keep them there
[19:26]<lgrggm>Like randomly, a message would say they win free gold.
[19:26]<lgrggm>but uhm. :S
[19:26]<lgrggm>I wanted to do frames, its the easiest way.
[19:27]<wg22gg>So you were you going to trade virtual gold for the cost to the user of having to put up with ads?
[19:27]<lgrggm>No, just offering it as a prize, randomly for people who actively use the site.
[19:27]<wg22gg>sorry ... the chance of virtual gold
[19:27]<wg22gg>sounds unworkable
[19:28]<wg22gg>they could just keep your page in one tab
[19:28]<wg22gg>and the game in another
[19:28]<lgrggm>k ignore that
[19:28]<lgrggm>I just want my frame to work
[19:28]<lgrggm>:(
[19:28]<lgrggm>I want the top frame, then the left frame, and the right frame.
[19:28]<wg22gg>go read the spec then :)
[19:28]<lgrggm>:(
[19:28]<lgrggm>I hate you :(
[19:28]<wg22gg>it's not my fault
[19:28]<wg22gg>i didn't break your frames
[19:29]<wg22gg>and as i wouldn't dream of using frames
[19:29]<wg22gg>i have no idea how to fix them
[19:29]<wg22gg>i'd have to read the spec too
[19:29]<lgrggm>:'(
[19:29]<lgrggm>Well can you tell me why I keep getting:
[19:29]<lgrggm>The requested URL /ws/main.php.php was not found on this server.
[19:29]<lgrggm>the double .php
[19:29]<wg22gg>well, what URL are you putting into the address bar?
[19:30]<lgrggm>/ws/
[19:30]<wg22gg>sorry, what absolute URL?
[19:30]<lgrggm>The left menu works.
[19:30]<wg22gg>what's that got to do with it?
[19:31]<lgrggm>That's my site.
[19:31]<wg22gg>what is?
[19:31]<lgrggm>You see the .php.php error?
[19:31]<lgrggm>I noticed you..
[19:31]<lgrggm>Oh
[19:31]<lgrggm>I gotta register.
[19:31]<wg22gg>?
[19:31]<wg22gg>i don't even know what the url of your site is
[19:31]<|lgrggm|>Yeah
[19:31]<|lgrggm|>I've been giving it to you
[19:31]<|lgrggm|>but it says I have to register
[19:32]<|lgrggm|>:)
[19:32]<|lgrggm|>There.
[19:32]<wg22gg>"/msg nickserv register Legend"
[19:32]<|lgrggm|>It's registered.
[19:32]<|lgrggm|>And that's incorrect cause you need password :o
[19:32]<|lgrggm|>/ns register <password> :)
[19:32]<wg22gg>oh whoops
[19:32]<|lgrggm|>Hehe.
[19:33]<wg22gg>well, i don't see any error
[19:33]<|lgrggm|>...
[19:33]<|lgrggm|>You don't?.

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