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[22:52]<bugcrysc>I will take a look
[22:52]<wg22gg>BunkaiSK, did you try wordpress?
[22:52]<wg22gg>BunkaiSK, because the way your thinking about this is still a little confused
[22:53]<wg22gg>A CMS wysiwig editor does not create "webpages", it creates "articles", "news items", "fragments" which are then placed within predefined (but customizable) templates for web pages
[22:55]<bugcrysc>webben, ah then it is ok..
[22:55]<bugcrysc>I was nt clear with exactly what all cms does
[22:56]<svjgncdlxnz>cms = content management system
[22:56]<wg22gg>BunkaiSK, although CMS still create junk markup
[22:56]<svjgncdlxnz>they come in a ton of flavors
[22:56]<bugcrysc>therefore, i will create my own system, and then use cms to add those features to it
[22:56]<wg22gg>BunkaiSK, no it doesn't work like that
[22:56]<wg22gg>you download a CMS
[22:56]<wg22gg>then you understand how to use it
[22:56]<svjgncdlxnz>wikis (mediawiki, usemod,) blogs (word press, blogger,) bulletin boards (phpbb, postnuke,) et cetera
[22:56]<wg22gg>then you customize the templates and the styles and the images
[22:57]<wg22gg>then your secretary creates little articles/fragments/items on a daily/weekly basis
[22:57]<wg22gg>which are put into the templates
[22:57]<wg22gg>but there's no point me explaining this stuff :) just download php-nuke and actually run it, and you'll have a better idea how this stuff works
[22:57]<wg22gg>(or wordpress which has less features but works on the same principle)
[22:58]<wg22gg>StoneCypher, can you recommend a cms to BunkaiSK, because i really don't know enough to
[22:58]<bugcrysc>Drupal - I think Drupal can be cool
[22:59]<wg22gg>well then use that then :)
[22:59]<wg22gg>though even their fricking home page doesn't validate http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdrupal.org%2F
[23:00]<bugcrysc>yeah, I will work with Drupal, webben, thank yuo..
[23:00]<wg22gg>wbr is apparently xhtml now ... who knew :(
[23:00]<wg22gg>BunkaiSK, np
[23:00]<bugcrysc>indeed you know, in the workflow you mentioned, I missed like creating a website itself.. is this point not present on CMS systems anymore?
[23:01]<wg22gg>BunkaiSK, the CMS basically includes a website, which you customize and add content to
[23:02]<bugcrysc>ah yeah... I am studying cms already - Drupal
[23:02]<bugcrysc>can such a website modified to virtually any design I like? or are there some limitations?
[23:03]<wg22gg>yes there will be limitations; no probably not ones that will affect you badly; yes you will need to understand the system well to customize it radically
[23:04]<bugcrysc>uf.. is it worth then using CMS? if I must limit my creativity to generate a boring informal website?
[23:05]<mjzwzzm>BunkaiSK: As webben said, the limitations aren't that severe
[23:06]<bugcrysc>Dorward, thank you.. its time to start reading.. have a nice day
[23:12]<-- dvxn|syzzzyus xzs>http://www.bagdadsoftware.de")
[23:24]<wysl>hey.. is there any way to setup the font-size and family of <pre> tags?
[23:25]<wysl>aha nm
