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[11:00]<svjgncdlxnz>dude
[11:00]<svjgncdlxnz>ask in one place at once
[11:00]<svjgncdlxnz>i was answering you on efnet
[11:00]<svjgncdlxnz>ass
[11:01]<20rv>lakez: Don't use spacers.
[11:05]<frcne>StoneCypher, i ask on both networks at night just cause people usually don't answer :)
[11:05]<frcne>and I appreciate your answer.. kicks ass
[11:09]<wg22gg>skill^[z], yes why?
[11:10]<frcne>skill^[z], why are you blocking other countries other than US/UK? For example, Canada, Australia?
[11:11]<wg22gg>skill^[z], i can't grok the point of what you're doing given the existence of proxies
[11:11]<wg22gg>and anonymizers
[11:12]<wg22gg>skill^[z], sure
[11:12]<wg22gg>skill^[z], i'm just wondering what value you think it has
[12:33]<frcne>StoneCypher, still around?
[13:05]<zj22nzvnl>hello all.
[13:07]<zj22nzvnl>is it possible to have seperate links in the list command?
[13:07]<mjzwzzm>What is "the list command"?
[13:16]<aznd>When using div-driven layout, all time spends in finding hacks to avoid IE bugs. :-( And resulting CSS+HTML become not so elegant as they wanted to be..
[13:31]<fjrr2nrax>hi
[13:31]<fjrr2nrax>i got this question
[13:31]<fjrr2nrax>http://css.commctrl.com/41
[13:37]<myryvjc>Yeh using JS
[13:37]<myryvjc>Try a js channel
[13:47]<zj22nzvnl>does anyone here use realurl?
[13:47]<myryvjc>I use fakeurl
[13:48]<zj22nzvnl>u use typo3?
[13:48]<myryvjc>Yep
[13:48]<zj22nzvnl>nice..
[13:49]<zj22nzvnl>realurl worked, but i removed the realurl ext by clicking the - button and now installed it again.. now it doenst work anymore.
[13:49]<zj22nzvnl>the - button in install extensions page.
[13:50]<zj22nzvnl>digitok: what version are you using?
[13:50]<zj22nzvnl>digitok: of typo3
[13:50]<myryvjc>I have no idea what you're on about
[13:52]<zj22nzvnl>haha
[13:52]<zj22nzvnl>k
[13:56]<slzzgygvzmgz>Hi
[13:57]<slzzgygvzmgz>How do you change the style of a div from javascript?
[15:47]<nftyzzn>can I load the content of one page from inside another page (in a div for example)?
[16:04]<wg22gg>elTigre: what for?
[16:05]<wg22gg>elTigre: can you gives more context as to what you're doing?
[16:05]<nftyzzn>I want to write a turbogears(python "on rails") ajax application where I have different addresses for one person....
[16:06]<nftyzzn>all of them are on one page
[16:06]<nftyzzn>now it would be nice to load them as different divs from my server app, but I don't know how to do that
[16:06]<wg22gg>sorry, if all of them are on one page, why are you loading them?
[16:07]<nftyzzn>because if the user clicks on the "change" link in one of the addresses, I want to replace that paragraph with a form
[16:07]<nftyzzn>and back again on "save"
[16:08]<nftyzzn>and all of that without reloading the whole page
[16:08]<wg22gg>elTigre: and you want to load the html for the form with ajax rather than constructing it directly with the dom?
[16:08]<nftyzzn>yes
[16:08]<nftyzzn>I want to use as little javascript as possible
[16:09]<nftyzzn>is there something like an "src" attribute in div?
[16:09]<wg22gg>elTigre: no
[16:10]<wg22gg>elTigre: you'll need to pull down a domtree with ajax
[16:10]<mnajzn>will be in XHTML2 though
[16:10]<wg22gg>and insert it in your existing dom tree
[16:10]<nftyzzn>ah... ok....
[16:10]<wg22gg>decore: hah, well you can already do something like that with existing specs: XLink
[16:10]<mnajzn>yeah, buttcakes.
[16:10]<mnajzn>D:
[16:10]<nftyzzn>html XLink
[16:11]<wg22gg>elTigre: yeah XLink won't help you because that bit's implemented by almost nobody AFAIK
[16:11]<nftyzzn>oh ok
[16:11]<wg22gg>elTigre: your choice is between 1) constructing with JS totally 2) Downloading with Ajax and inserting with JS DOM and 3) just reloading the page with a form
[16:11]<nftyzzn>I guess I'll try 2)
[16:12]<nftyzzn>thanks
[16:12]<wg22gg>np
[16:14]<mnajzn>Breakup songs just aren't that good when you're in a relationship.
[16:14]<mnajzn>lol
[16:15]<bugcrysc>hello.. please, is it possible to add semitransparent images to a website? I want to achieve seamless combination of images and background, but afaik, GIF supports only either transparent or opaque. So it is not possible to achieve nice glow effects
[17:31]<gzznvxzdzds>BunkaiSK: it's possible, but Internet Explorer doesn't support it
[17:31]<gzznvxzdzds>search for PNG and alpha transparency
[17:31]<bugcrysc>GarethAdams, yeah, i am on Internet Explorer..
[17:32]<bugcrysc>thank you..
[17:32]<bugcrysc>it would not be good if majority of users would not have transparency..
[17:33]<gzznvxzdzds>there are hacks which use javascript to make it work, but it's not reliable in my experience
[19:24]<gjjaw>hi
[19:37]<wysxcrx>can I make an entry in a form listbox non-select-able?
[19:38]<mjzwzzm>wishkah: What would be the point of that?
[19:39]<wysxcrx>Dorward: well, I have a listbox with items that are in "groups", and I don't want the "group" entry in the list to be selectable
[19:39]<wg22gg>wishkah <option disabled>
[19:39]<wysxcrx>e.g. a group of objects begins with a bold record in the list, e.g. "Clothing", then "Shirt", "Hat" etc.
[19:39]<wysxcrx>thx
[19:40]<wg22gg>http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#adef-disabled
[19:40]<wg22gg>wishkah: hold on are you talking about disabled items, or headings within the list?
[19:41]<wg22gg>if you want *headings*, i.e. Clothing is not selectable but shirt and hat are
[19:41]<wg22gg>then you should use optgroup
[19:41]<wysxcrx>headings within the list...
[19:41]<wg22gg>http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#edef-OPTGROUP
[19:41]<wysxcrx>maybe I should rely less on self-html, all that stuff I never read anything about there
[19:41]<wysxcrx>thx webben, you just saved me some time re-implementing this later :)
[19:42]<wg22gg>wishkah: do you prefer self-html because it's in german?
[19:42]<wg22gg>wishkah: because there is a german translation of the HTML specification
[19:42]<wg22gg>which would be better
[19:44]<wg22gg>wishkah, http://www.edition-w3.de/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/
[19:45]<wysxcrx>webben: no actually I just wasn't aware of that page you are using :)
[19:45]<wg22gg>You weren't aware of the Forms section of the spec?
[19:46]<wg22gg>Or you weren't aware of the translation?
[19:47]<wg22gg>I ask because it would be the second time i've had to dig up a translation within the past 24 hours.
[19:47]<wysxcrx>webben: I wasn't aware that the w3c published a nice website with all the useful information around the html standard. Stupid, I know, I just didn't think of it

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