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[00:00]<jgncj>slashdot sucks
[00:00]<smgm`>For good reason
[00:00]<jgncj>slashdot used tables for layout until like, 2005
[00:00]<jgncj>every single goddamn entry had its own table
[00:00]<jgncj>with everything a graphic
[00:00]<jgncj>it was the single WORST designed page on tah intarnaz
[00:00]<smgm`>It still is
[00:01]<zyzxzzmp>oneko: uh, they only switched to css this year
[00:01]<zyzxzzmp>like march time
[00:01]<jgncj>omg
[00:01]<jgncj>so you mean, my gross exagerration
[00:01]<jgncj>was actually an understatement?
[00:01]<zyzxzzmp>was way off
[00:01]<jgncj>gah
[00:01]<jgncj>sick, sick, sick
[00:01]<zyzxzzmp>heh
[00:02]<jgncj>i make sure even my programmatically generated html code is standards compliant, validated, and semantically correct
[00:02]<zyzxzzmp>same here
[00:02]<jgncj>which is what i'm doing right now
[00:02]<zyzxzzmp>at least when i do it for me :D
[00:02]<jgncj>designing a front end for a database
[00:03]<jgncj>brb
[00:04]<mmpzgdgg>I wonder who came up with the /. color scheme
[00:04]<jgncj>some fucking idiot star trek fanboy
[00:04]<dycn|d2>id bet on rob malda
[00:04]<smgm`>Woohoo
[00:04]<jgncj>rob malda
[00:04]<smgm`>Toshiba announces their MK2035GSS which packs in 200GB of 2.5-inch SATA disk
[00:04]<jgncj>i mean
[00:05]<tggcrwr>I hate /.'s new look
[00:05]<dycn|d2>i love it
[00:05]<dycn|d2>i like collapsable menues
[00:05]<dycn|d2><3
[00:05]<smgm`>I hate /., period
[00:06]<dycn|d2>why, because it doesnt bow to the steve like engadget does? ;)
[00:07]<mmpzgdgg>At least the CURRENT slashdot design doesn't look like it's from the '80s anymore
[00:07]<smgm`>No, because it is slathered with Ballmer evangelists and such
[00:07]<svryg>it looks like it's from the 80's and have been applified
[00:08]<dycn|d2>slashdot is fun to read, as is digg and engadget when comments are on
[00:08]<dycn|d2>engadget SUCKS without comments
[00:09]<mmpzgdgg>I suck without sleep
[00:09]<mmpzgdgg>g'night ;)
[00:10]<zfzz_fuzzdyzz>in ps, how do I display all running processes?
[00:10]<zfzz_fuzzdyzz>ps -A no such option
[00:13]<sjzanznzx>-a
[00:13]<sjzanznzx>not -A
[00:13]<sjzanznzx>but ps aux
[00:13]<sjzanznzx>should do the trick
[00:16]<zfzz_fuzzdyzz>thanks SorcererX
[00:31]<r2ysgg>who is using ircle (the universal binary here) it does not works with proxy i had to fall back to PPC version ...
[00:33]<2gjva>abisen, i don't but could i see a screenshot of it?
[00:34]<rvdrv>is there any way to know how much memory leaks a process?
[00:34]<rvdrv>I wanna check out the memory leak (if any) of a camino+flahs
[00:43]<zyzxzzmp>atmat: top -o rsize
[00:44]<rvdrv>thnx
[00:44]<rvdrv>this is what I was looking for
[00:44]<rvdrv>I was searching the top man pge thnx RichardP
[00:44]<zyzxzzmp>heh np
[00:48]<jgncj>hi abisen
[00:48]<jgncj>it's funny
[00:48]<jgncj>earlier today we were discussing how bad OS 9 irc clients were :P
[00:48]<jgncj>top -u
[00:49]<svryg>I wish top could sort by cpu by default
[00:49]<jgncj>me too
[00:49]<svryg>I don't understand the use of the normal sorting
[00:49]<jgncj>extra keystrokes
[00:49]<svryg>"Hei, let's sort on.. I don't know!"
[00:49]<jgncj>it's a "feature" put in my keyboard salespeople
[00:50]<jgncj>to sell more keyboards
[00:50]<jgncj>worn out by typing "-u" or "-o cpu" or "P" or ">>>"
[00:50]<svryg>it's actually decreasing per pid or something
[00:50]<svryg>so the newest will be at the top
[00:50]<cryus>stain: yup
[00:50]<svryg>while mr. 80% WindowServer is way in the bottom
[00:50]<svryg>very useful
[00:51]<cryus>makes sense to me
[00:51]<svryg>"Look, firefox only use 5% for that animation1"
[00:51]<jgncj>-> Control+Space -> "Activ"
[00:51]<cryus>top = list of apps in order opened, cpu = list of apps in cpu usage
[00:55]<jgncj>-gotta go kids
[01:01]<mrrygmrg>+well i'm pleased now, got dvds playing on linux
[01:02]<dycn|d2>+oh yeah? well i can finally watch wmv's on my intellomacs
[01:02]<dycn|d2>+so thar!
[01:02]<zznd->+... linux?
[01:03]<zznd->+isn't that like an automatic kickban here?
[01:03]<mrrygmrg>+it shouldn't be
[01:04]<zznd->+I'm sure there's a bah-zillion #linux channels. ;)
[01:04]<zznd->+anyway...
[01:04]<zznd->+Mike|mb: flip4mac out for macintel yet?
[01:04]<dycn|d2>+yep private bet
[01:04]<dycn|d2>+a
[01:05]<zznd->+private?
[01:05]<zznd->+weak.
[01:05]<zznd->+Mike|mb: does it jive with frontrow?
[01:05]<dycn|d2>+dunno havent tried yet
[01:05]<zznd->+
ACTION has wondered if frontrow will play wmv's if supported via quicktime plugins.

[01:09]<huzzzdsnrajw>-grey-: Yes, frontrow will play wmv files if you have a compatible quicktime plugin.
[01:09]<zznd->+HungrySeacow: rad.
[01:09]<zznd->+vlc could use a quicktime plugin.

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