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[01:04]<dnvjf>i have the black macbook
[01:04]<uey>nice
[01:04]<uey>mine is white
[01:04]<dnvjf>it was the only one i could get last saturday
[01:05]<dnvjf>it's my first apple ever
[01:05]<uey>same here
[01:05]<dzzygg>black paint has never cost so much :p
[01:05]<uey>I got mine on Friday
[01:05]<uey>exactly a week ago
[01:05]<dnvjf>it has 80GB disk too ;0
[01:05]<_xl_>let me guess, class of 2010 ?
[01:05]<uey>DeVol: I did the 512MB and 60GB options and I'm upgrading it on my own
[01:06]<uey>DeVol: as soon as I'm done installing, it'll be 2GB and 120GB... already did the RAM, now it's the disk installation
[01:06]<dnvjf>i was meaning to take 1Gb RAM too, but I couldn't wait anymore :)
[01:06]<dzrgyw>Anybody happy with the available irc-clients for osx?
[01:06]<uey>DeVol: go third-party
[01:06]<uey>DeVol: I upgraded to 2GB for $160
[01:06]<zyzxvsvzfcnz>Dranix: colloquy.info
[01:06]<uey>as opposed to $500 with Apple
[01:06]<dnvjf>uzi: what you do with the old simms?
[01:06]<zjzw>Dranix: yes
[01:07]<uey>"PULL!!" *BANG!*
[01:07]<_xl_>Dranix: colloquy is crap, try xchat-aqua
[01:07]<gnjd>uzi uzi uzi uzi uzi.
[01:07]<uey>DeVol: I have no use for them
[01:07]<dzzydns>_hp_: blah, what's wrong with colloquy
[01:07]<uey>N-E-O-M
[01:07]<dnvjf>i'm usinng colloquy now after initially using command line irc from darwinports :)
[01:07]<_xl_>mgrimes: i just plain don't like it
[01:07]<dzzydns>_hp_: heh
[01:07]<_xl_>mgrimes: i used it once, and i just couldn't use it
[01:07]<uey>neom: got my 120GB disk... installing MacOSX right now
[01:07]<_xl_>it annoyed me beyond comprehension
[01:08]<zyzxvsvzfcnz>DeVol: you want to update though :)
[01:08]<gnjd>Hope it's not 7200RPM.
[01:08]<uey>neom: nope... 5400
[01:08]<gnjd>Good.
[01:08]<dnvjf>colloquy kinda hides stuff.. i couldn't easily enter stuff at the console (had to type a 'cookie' at efnet)
[01:08]<dzrgyw>Nothing missing?
[01:08]<gnjd>Yah, someone melted the plastic on their MB with one I guess.. :|
[01:08]<_xl_>plus i like irc in a monospace font
[01:08]<uey>neom: I went for the Western Digital 120GB disk for $150... it was the cheapest option
[01:09]<dzzydns>_hp_: so you use a monospace font?
[01:09]<dzzydns>:)
[01:09]<dzzydns>it's not hard, just select one
[01:09]<_xl_>mgrimes: i'm not switching from xchat
[01:09]<_xl_>it's simple and does what i want
[01:09]<_xl_>simply
[01:09]<dzzydns>no i mean you are giving arguments that don't make sense
[01:09]<dnvjf>i'm wondering about the Mac-warez scene.... i have never noticed it :)
[01:10]<dzzydns>i mean it's ok not to like it
[01:10]<_xl_>DeVol: mac users generally pay for their software
[01:10]<dzzydns>but i was hoping for something objective
[01:10]<zyzxvsvzfcnz>DeVol: we dont do warez!
[01:10]<zjzw>I wasn't too crazy about the UI and the performance, but I guess that's due to it using WebViews
[01:10]<dnvjf>nightstalker: i dont ask you to do warez
[01:10]<_xl_>speaking of which, does anyone have a textmate licence they're not using anymore and would like to sell?
[01:10]<dnvjf>So everyone buys his copy of MS Office ?
[01:10]<gnjd>uzi - Wanna buy me some ram? :P
[01:11]<zyzxvsvzfcnz>i dont have ms office
[01:11]<uey>neom: want my extra RAM? :)
[01:11]<uey>DeVol: open office
[01:11]<_xl_>DeVol: did you notice that you don't need a serial # to install os x?
[01:11]<dnvjf>then MS has more private customers from Apple users than from Windows users, maybe :D
[01:11]<uey>DeVol: or neooffice
[01:11]<dzzydns>rorx: yeah webviews are slower, but if you know xsl infinitely more customizable
[01:11]<dzzydns>you're not confined to whatever the developer gives you to interface with the view
[01:11]<dzzydns>to customization weirdos that's a nicity
[01:11]<gnjd>uzi - need 2gig. :P
[01:11]<uey>neom: it's just $160, dude!
[01:11]<_xl_>the student edition of word is $149, and the creative suite is $399
[01:11]<zjzw>mgrimes: right, it's a bit of a tradeoff.
[01:11]<uey>Mac users buy their own ram, too!
[01:12]<_xl_>student discounts kick ass
[01:12]<uey>_hp_: yeah, if you're a student
[01:12]<dnvjf>uzi: why did you so desperately want 2 gig and 120Gb disk if you're also new to apple... why not first test what the standard version does? :)
[01:12]<uey>DeVol: because I'm a goddamn pimp
[01:12]<dzzydns>but i'm usual active on the same number of channels that i am in any other irc client, and slower is not slow -- it's not like it doesn't keep up
[01:12]<_xl_>uzi: i thought you were?
[01:12]<dzzydns>slower doesn't mean slow...
[01:12]<dzzydns>i think the trade off is way more in favor of xsl
[01:12]<uey>DeVol: I have a lot of Mac users around me... they all told me to max it out, so I listened
[01:13]<uey>_hp_: nope... been a few years since
[01:13]<dzzydns>the microseconds you lose offers considerably more flexibility
[01:13]<uey>ignore where I'm signed on from... it's one of the gimp.org machines
[01:13]<zyzxvsvzfcnz>uzi: i thought you said pimp, not gimp
[01:14]<dzzydns>_hp_: i used to complain about lack of socks support.. but that's a non-issue now
[01:14]<uey>nightstalker: no, you got it right... I am a pimp, and I use the gimp ;)
[01:14]<_xl_>uzi: oh... lots of people get their first mac for college
[01:14]<_xl_>like i did
[01:14]<uey>_hp_: I've been a Linux dude since college
[01:14]<uey>only thing Apple I've ever owned before was their stock
[01:14]<_xl_>apple probably has a 30-40% market share of my school when it comes to laptops
[01:14]<zyzxvsvzfcnz>well we already had macs before i was born
[01:15]<uey>and it was nice to me (bought at $11, sold half of it around $81)
[01:15]<dzrgyw>uzi, I have 2 1/4 GB of RAM in my PowerMac. I have to do VERY heavy work in PS tu need this
[01:15]<zjzw>mgrimes: yes, I suppose if customizing the view is important that's fair. I guess my needs are simple in that regard, just being able to change colors is enough for me.
[01:15]<uey>Dranix: yeah, Photoshop is why I bought this macbook
[01:15]<_xl_>uzi: phtooshop will run slow(er)
[01:15]<gru>I got my first Mac for 8th grade

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