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[00:00]<ggrzjsrg>hahaha
[00:00]<ausvyg>Well, I'm waiting here at the genius bar.
[00:00]<zzzzjm07>no, i use irc to talk to people techrush
[00:00]<ausvyg>Seems like fairly ordinary wood to me.
[00:00]<fuaadwzggax>heh, the genius bar
[00:00]<nd0zd>i've yet to find a real genius there.
[00:00]<fuaadwzggax>i might stop by the apple store after work
[00:00]<fuaadwzggax>I know, those poor guys
[00:00]<fuaadwzggax>talk about high expectations
[00:00]<nd0zd>right?!
[00:00]<vnaxzusx>i should apply there
[00:00]<fuaadwzggax>they dont pay well
[00:00]<nd0zd>i thought it'd be a fun job for weekends
[00:00]<vnaxzusx>i wonder if they make a good wage
[00:00]<ausvyg>Well, they're very stylish.
[00:00]<fuaadwzggax>thats the main problem
[00:00]<nd0zd>but exactly
[00:01]<nd0zd>retail don't pay shit
[00:01]<ausvyg>I don't know how clever they are yet.
[00:01]<nd0zd>and i'd make more money watching paint peel
[00:01]<fuaadwzggax>showtime here
[00:01]<fuaadwzggax>bbl
[00:01]<vnaxzusx>its got to be more challenging than doing support for windows machines
[00:01]<vnaxzusx>all you do for windows support
[00:01]<vnaxzusx>is say
[00:01]<nd0zd>techrush: 'reboot'
[00:01]<vnaxzusx>"you have spyware"
[00:01]<nd0zd>techrush: 're-install'
[00:01]<vnaxzusx>ya
[00:01]<nd0zd>techrush: 'update your virus software'
[00:01]<nd0zd>dumbasses
[00:02]<nd0zd>yeah i guess most windows users don't have time to actually break their computers since they're infected and trojan'ed before they can encounter a real crash these days.
[00:02]<agp>\]o/
[00:02]<nd0zd>people confuse this with windows being stable
[00:02]<agp>it WORKS!
[00:02]<kgzggfo7>http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/index.blog?entry_id=1516506
[00:02]<vnaxzusx>i tried telling this guy at worl the other day that there are no known mac virus' or spyware
[00:02]<vnaxzusx>and he was dumbfounded
[00:02]<vnaxzusx>like i still dont think he believes it
[00:03]<nd0zd>there are proof of concept worms and trojans.
[00:03]<nd0zd>so its not entirely true
[00:03]<vnaxzusx>right
[00:03]<ausvyg>It's true! The commercial says so!
[00:03]<nd0zd>heh
[00:03]<vnaxzusx>yeah but i mean
[00:03]<vnaxzusx>in the real world
[00:03]<nd0zd>someone will write a couple just to shut apple up
[00:03]<nd0zd>apple has plenty of security vulnerabilities that are locally exploitable
[00:03]<vnaxzusx>true
[00:03]<nd0zd>they also have no real channels for reporting bugs and tracking them.
[00:03]<nd0zd>they FINALLY joined FIRST a month ago
[00:03]<vnaxzusx>its just funny peoples reactions
[00:04]<vnaxzusx>to a somewhat secure OS
[00:04]<vnaxzusx>people dont think its possible
[00:04]<vnaxzusx>or something
[00:04]<vnaxzusx>i dunno
[00:04]<vnaxzusx>it just wasnt the reaction i was expecting i geuss
[00:04]<nd0zd>my day job is research and engineering for a managed security services firm.
[00:04]<nd0zd>so all day long we're getting slammed by viruses, trojans, active attacks, pasive attacks, spambots, botnets, shit like that.
[00:04]<vnaxzusx>tight
[00:04]<vnaxzusx>sounds fun
[00:04]<nd0zd>except none of our customers use macs. so odd. :)
[00:05]<nd0zd>it has its moments.
[00:05]<vnaxzusx>i make subs
[00:05]<nd0zd>i've been doing incident response/intrusion detection for about 10 years.
[00:05]<vnaxzusx>it has no moments
[00:05]<vnaxzusx>whatsoever
[00:05]<nd0zd>ahahah
[00:05]<vnaxzusx>do you have a degree ?
[00:06]<nd0zd>no.
[00:06]<nd0zd>i went to school for library science/religious studies.
[00:06]<nd0zd>and will probably go back in but for ethography
[00:06]<nd0zd>ethnography
[00:06]<fuaadwzggax>i get paid to slack off on my powerbook
[00:06]<vnaxzusx>ic
[00:06]<vnaxzusx>how do people get these jobs
[00:06]<vnaxzusx>i wonder
[00:06]<vnaxzusx>i must be doing something wrong
[00:06]<fuaadwzggax>i got so lucky with this number, i hope it never ends
[00:07]<fuaadwzggax>but someday it will
[00:07]<agp>ha, YES, static Wide Area Bonjour works ^^
[00:07]<nd0zd>well i worked in systems administration forever
[00:07]<fuaadwzggax>go cnf
[00:07]<nd0zd>then worked at AOL for a while and moved directly into security
[00:07]<fuaadwzggax>woo hoo\
[00:07]<nd0zd>form there its all i've done
[00:07]<nd0zd>s/form/from
[00:07]<nd0zd>this keyboard is driving me up a wall
[00:07]<vnaxzusx>i worked telemarketing magazine subscriptions for a while
[00:07]<vnaxzusx>than on too a burrito shop
[00:07]<vnaxzusx>and now subway!
[00:08]<fuaadwzggax>hey, its money
[00:08]<vnaxzusx>yuh
[00:08]<nd0zd>buy your own subway
[00:08]<nd0zd>sock away cash.
[00:09]<vnaxzusx>haha
[00:09]<fuaadwzggax>Im hungry now
[00:09]<fuaadwzggax>damn
[00:09]<nd0zd>probably tall bucks though, apparently it costs like 400,000 dollars to open a dunkin donuts up here
[00:09]<vnaxzusx>yeah its at least 100k for a franchise







