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[00:02]<ryys>rorx: eh?
[00:02]<ryys>oh, yeah
[00:02]<ryys>I forgot an X
[00:02]<svryg>Riis: I think it runs at the same speed on my macbookpro as on my powerbook
[00:02]<ryys>k
[00:03]<ryys>bet it's horribly expensive though
[00:03]<ajgnscjj>Riis: Office or what?
[00:03]<ajgnscjj>Riis: I hope you're looking at the student edition
[00:04]<agp>muk_ibook: http://pastie.caboo.se/4100
[00:09]<duc_y2jjc>storm time, I'm out y'all
[00:10]<ggrzjsrg>?
[00:10]<ggrzjsrg>You shut your computer off during storms?
[00:10]<ggrzjsrg>That's so like, a 1930s thing to do.
[00:11]<nwp>there is edu pricing for office
[00:11]<duc_y2jjc>Necrosan, my pc, yeah
[00:11]<duc_y2jjc>my laptop is full battery, hehe
[00:11]<duc_y2jjc>this apartment has shitty power, so I worry
[00:12]<ggrzjsrg>heh
[00:17]<rjj>How do I add a new group and put users into that group The Proper Way on OSX?
[00:17]<ggrzjsrg>like this
[00:17]<ggrzjsrg>"apprentice"
[00:17]<rjj>I see that editing /etc/group will be futile because of lookupd
[00:18]<ggrzjsrg>I advise you learn how OSX works, goo.
[00:18]<zllzggvyag>wtf
[00:18]<zllzggvyag>u want
[00:18]<ggrzjsrg>er
[00:18]<ggrzjsrg>LOL
[00:18]<rjj>Necrosan: Well, that is what I am trying to do. And you aren't really helpful, are you?
[00:18]<ggrzjsrg>goo: Netinfodb
[00:19]<rjj>Ah. Netinfo Manager. Great :)
[00:19]<rjj>Necrosan: thanks, man
[00:19]<ggrzjsrg>np
[00:19]<ggrzjsrg>OSX doesn't look at standard files
[00:19]<ggrzjsrg>AFAIK
[00:19]<ggrzjsrg>Well /etc/hosts it does
[00:21]<zjzw>yeah, that's an exception, didn't used to be that way either.
[00:22]<sxzzcxzv>err.. os x server doesnt look at /etc/hosts
[00:22]<sxzzcxzv>i know that
[00:23]<ggrzjsrg>rorx: Do you think I should chown all my Disks like / ?
[00:23]<ggrzjsrg>Or leave myself the owner?
[00:23]<sxzzcxzv>err.. i guess it was os x server doesnt look at /etc/fstab
[00:23]<zjzw>Necrosan: I always change / to 0700
[00:24]<zjzw>sharkhat: yes, it does use hosts(5), since 10.3 I think.
[00:24]<sxzzcxzv>This file does nothing, contains no useful data, and might go away in
[00:24]<sxzzcxzv>future releases. Do not depend on this file or its contents.
[00:24]<sxzzcxzv>~
[00:24]<sxzzcxzv>~
[00:24]<sxzzcxzv>rorx: yea, i mis spoke, i meant it doesnt use fstab
[00:24]<zjzw>it's one of the few flat file that's used, in multiuser
[00:25]<sxzzcxzv>the text above is quoted from the file
[00:25]<sxzzcxzv>i love it.. lol
[00:25]<ggrzjsrg>rorx: I want to chmod my Media Disk
[00:25]<ggrzjsrg>to have the exact same perms
[00:25]<ggrzjsrg>as my OSX disk
[00:25]<vnaxzusxzusx>hi
[00:26]<ggrzjsrg>Or would you advise against that?
[00:26]<zjzw>sharkhat: actually fstab can be used as well, just not by default, it's used by disk arbitration for static mounts.
[00:26]<sxzzcxzv>a really fun way around not having privilages in osx, is to select the file, hit 'duplicate' and then you have a copy of the file that you own
[00:27]<sxzzcxzv>rorx: then what is it talking about when it says "This file does nothing, contains no useful data, and might go away in future releases. Do not depend on this file or its contents."
[00:27]<gdj>uh ?
[00:27]<zjzw>Necrosan: I think / by default is 0774, which they had to do because Mac users expect to be able to write to the top of their disk.. but of course, in unix this is a big no no.
[00:27]<zjzw>Necrosan: so I change it to 0744
[00:28]<zjzw>sharkhat: I think you're talking about /etc/fstab.hd no? fstab doesn't even exist by default.
[00:37]<sajvnly>hello, does anyone know how to set the hostname in mac os x via the command line?
[00:37]<zjzw>scotepi: hostname(1)
[00:37]<dfc>scotepi, 'hostname'?
[00:38]<sajvnly>doh
[00:40]<zzzjgp0>anyone use parallels?
[00:40]<zysa>http://www.belightsoft.com/products/imagetricks/overview.php --- sweet app, uses OpenGL and CoreImage to edit images :D
[00:40]<zysa>aaronf0 yes
[00:40]<zzzjgp0>the hdd file is self contained?
[00:40]<zysa>yes
[00:40]<zzzjgp0>as in i can format the hell out of it, and not touch the disk?
[00:40]<zysa>correct
[00:41]<zzzjgp0>s/format/partitions and format
[00:41]<zzzjgp0>pretty sweet setup...
[00:41]<zzzjgp0>hrm
[00:41]<zzzjgp0>i wonder how many os's i can get on one .hdd file...
[00:41]<zysa>yes it is just a file (or files) that sit on your computer, they start off small and expand as needed
[00:41]<zzzjgp0>ok, its limited to 8ish gigs or something
[00:42]<zysa>no
[00:42]<zzzjgp0>by default, yes
[00:42]<zzzjgp0>8ish gigs is a nice limit to set on that file
[00:43]<zysa>once again NO
[00:43]<zzzjgp0>no?
[00:43]<zysa>when you pick the OS you want to install Parallels creates a HDD size it thinks is fine for that OS, you can edit that if you wish
[00:45]<zzzjgp0>ok
[00:45]<zzzjgp0>but there is still a limit on the file if you set one?
[00:46]<zzzjgp0>as i dont want that file growing much larger than it should
[00:46]<zysa>aaronf0 the limit is the size you create
[00:47]<zsgnmmnzs>g'night
[00:47]<zzzjgp0>ok
[00:48]<ggrzjsrg>rorx: this is a totally different disk
[00:48]<ggrzjsrg>lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 1B Dec 31 1969 System Disk -> /
[00:48]<ggrzjsrg>drwxr-xr-x 13 root admin 544B Jul 10 01:15 Media Disk
[00:48]<ggrzjsrg>I want them to match permissions wise
[00:49]<zjzw>Necrosan: looks like System Disk is a symlink
[00:49]<ggrzjsrg>well obviously
[00:49]<ggrzjsrg>but if i get info on it
[00:49]<ggrzjsrg>under group its admin

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