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[00:00]<fwv>at least for the previews
[00:00]<smgmq>lwt: You get what you pay for
[00:00]<dzzygg_>quick poll for the panel - is 24 megabits worth $85/mo ?
[00:00]<sxzzcxzv>so what is the best tv solution out today?
[00:00]<tuw1ns>quality over a LAN is almost exactly the same as the real thing, over the net its a bit worse, depending on your upload speed
[00:00]<smgmq>Darien_: Are you going to be making use of that 24Mbs?
[00:00]<tuw1ns>^^ Orb
[00:00]<sxzzcxzv>Darien_: i get 7 mb for 38, i used to pay 55 for 5 mbs
[00:00]<zjzw>Darien_: no, that's faster than the internet's backbone.
[00:00]<sxzzcxzv>rorx: huh?
[00:01]<smgmq>sharkhat: The elgato's are pretty damn sweet
[00:01]<fwv>elgato?
[00:01]<smgmq>Cheaper than the slingbox, but then again, they're different things
[00:01]<smgmq>lwt: EyeTV
[00:02]<smgmq>lwt: TV tuner + software for Mac
[00:02]<sxzzcxzv>i have like 2 or 3 guts of athlon 300-+ i would rather use windows or linux offering
[00:02]<sxzzcxzv>anything as nice for windows or linux?
[00:02]<zudl>wtf
[00:02]<smgmq>http://www.elgato.com/
[00:02]<zudl>my .torrents are associated with opera and not transmission
[00:02]<sxzzcxzv>rump new opera has a bt client
[00:02]<smgmq>rump: So Get Info on a .torrent and set it to Transmission
[00:02]<zudl>eww
[00:04]<mgffzzggf>I never really ended up getting bittorrent working on my macv... so I just use my fileserver
[00:04]<mgffzzggf>the mac doesnt have enough space anyway
[00:04]<zjzw>sharkhat: those extremely high bandwidth services are a waste right now I think, when they're likely going to exceed the speed of the Internet's backbone.
[00:04]<smgmq>sharkhat: There's quite a few TV tuner video cards out there for your basic beigeboxen
[00:05]<smgmq>sharkhat: I'm not very familiar with them though
[00:06]<mgffzzggf>Do you know of any good devices for streaming TV over a wireless network
[00:06]<sxzzcxzv>rorx are you suggesting he cant saturate a mear 26 mbit?
[00:07]<sxzzcxzv>thats only 3.25 mb/s, and i have downloaded stuff from icrosoft site at 4.2 mb/s
[00:07]<smgmq>delparnel: An elgato eyetv + http://www.lucid-cake.net/cytv/index_en.html
[00:08]<mgffzzggf>shakrat: boo on MediaCentral ... 5 minute demo?
[00:08]<zjzw>sharkhat: yes, I think it would be difficult to make use of it. Sure there are exceptions, but I think at this stage it's not the norm.
[00:08]<mgffzzggf>synd2: Does eyeTV work over network?
[00:08]<smgmq>delparnel: You need that cytv software
[00:09]<rjr2>is there a way to resize a .sparseimage?
[00:09]<rjr2>or do you need to create a new one and copy the files from the old to the new?
[00:09]<smgmq>delparnel: The eyeTV is a tuner for the Mac, so if you had another Mac, you can stream to it from the other Mac
[00:09]<mgffzzggf>ohh
[00:09]<smgmq>delparnel: It basically makes your eyeTV into a LAN slingbox
[00:09]<mgffzzggf>I only have one mac
[00:10]<mgffzzggf>and my TV is far from it
[00:10]<wrw>is there something like xlock for osx?
[00:10]<smgmq>hax: What's xlock?
[00:10]<smgmq>Screen lock?
[00:10]<wrw>locks the screen so you have to type in your password
[00:10]<rjr2>hax: yeah, open keychain access
[00:10]<fnavzyac>like the mac screensaver?
[00:11]<fnavzyac>which has a password protect feature?
[00:11]<wrw>faster than a screensaver
[00:11]<wrw>like, click and lock
[00:11]<wrw>joab: keychain, eh?
[00:11]<rjr2>hax: yeah
[00:11]<fnavzyac>pick a faster screensaver? lol
[00:11]<smgmq>hax: I lock my screen via Quicksilver
[00:11]<fnavzyac>quicksilver can lock screens? wtf
[00:11]<smgmq>Which basically does the keychain access lock command
[00:11]<rjr2>hax: there's a preference in there that puts a pad-lock next to the clock in the menubar
[00:11]<smgmq>lectrick: Yes
[00:11]<wrw>i don't like quicksilver
[00:11]<wrw>joab: oh sweet
[00:11]<fnavzyac>you don't LIKE quicksilver?
[00:11]<wrw>i don't
[00:11]<wrw>its laggy
[00:11]<wrw>and crashes
[00:12]<wrw>and isnt all that usefuul
[00:12]<wrw>*useful
[00:12]<zjzw>well, it's beta, no?
[00:12]<fnavzyac>i've only seen it zip, and not crash, and be immensely useful. perhaps you need a tutorial? ;)
[00:12]<smgmq>I consider there to be two types of OS X users
[00:12]<wrw>umm, maybe
[00:12]<fnavzyac>So how does one lock the screen w/QS?
[00:12]<smgmq>Ones who know of and use Quicksilver, and ones who don't
[00:12]<mgffzzggf>I love QS
[00:13]<zjzw>hax: so, what's wrong with using hot corners and a locking screensaver?
[00:13]<smgmq>lectrick: Invoke QS, type "Lock"
[00:13]<mgffzzggf>I couldn't live without it
[00:13]<wrw>how can i change my password, btw?
[00:13]<wrw>can i just 'passwd' or will that break things?
[00:13]<smgmq>hax: Sys Prefs > Accounts
[00:13]<wrw>rorx: i guess i can do that
[00:13]<fnavzyac>synd2: On mine that tries to run a text command
[00:13]<wrw>the keycahin thing looks better though
[00:13]<zjzw>hax: yeah, I think that might be a similar solution.
[00:13]<fnavzyac>synd2: Was it a plugin?
[00:13]<smgmq>lectrick: It was an "extra scripts" plugin, I believe
[00:14]<smgmq>lectrick: And I have the beta features enabled
[00:14]<smgmq>I can't check because I'm not on any of my Macs at the moment
[00:15]<wrw>also, is there a turn-monitor-off-until-mouse-moves button?
[00:15]<wrw>it happens automatically after the minutes you set in the energy saver
[00:15]<wrw>but i'd like there to be a button for it
[00:15]<wrw>'put display to sleep' i guess it'd be called
[00:15]<zudl>i want an easy button
[00:15]<zjzw>hax: nope, the APIs for DPMS are private I think.
[00:16]<wrw>rorx: wow, thats stupid
[00:16]<wrw>rorx: there's no tool like xset?
[00:16]<rjr2>there are solutions where you set it to one minute
[00:16]<zjzw>yeah, agreed, don't know why.
[00:16]<wrw>i'd be content doing it from the cli







