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[00:00]<zjzw>theBeno: yes, Solaris is very nice.
[00:00]<gjjvzjln>scottburton: the laptop gets very hot but i'm talking about the adapter brick. it melted the mouspad!
[00:00]<sajvv2uzvjg>nootrope: damn
[00:00]<sajvv2uzvjg>nootrope: not that hot
[00:02]<vxgbggj>rorx, What window manager does it use?
[00:02]<vxgbggj>It has it's own?
[00:03]<2fjgmyn>theBeno: whatever you want to use
[00:04]<vxgbggj>hmm, alright
[00:04]<2fjgmyn>it comes with CDE by default ;)
[00:04]<zjzw>theBeno: I haven't used it since v8, which I think used mwm. Now I think they've got the Java desktop and I'm not sure what that uses.
[00:05]<2fjgmyn>which looks like http://www.mie.utoronto.ca/computing/grads/cde-fullscreen.png
[00:05]<2fjgmyn>java desktop is gnome with a sun skin
[00:06]<2fjgmyn>I'm not sure what it has to do with java really :)
[00:06]<zjzw>probably uses java applications.
[00:06]<sxzzcxzv>blondie: it has java dev built perinstalled
[00:06]<sxzzcxzv>that is all i saw of java in there
[00:06]<sxzzcxzv> o and the demo of lookingglass, thier 3'd desktop env
[00:08]<gjjvzjln>lookingglass uses a cube-like interface for desktop switching, right?
[00:13]<wjgcgu>malongo !
[00:49]<ajgnscjj>hey
[00:49]<ajgnscjj>anyone recognize the music track from Mythbusters 3x17
[00:49]<ajgnscjj>I think the most recent episode
[00:50]<rjrgjdygrf>what is the way to go from one of your annotation to another in a previewed pdf document?
[00:52]<rjrgjdygrf>hum, sounds a half-baked feature from what I read from the doc
[00:53]<rjrgjdygrf>I hate marketted featured which are unuable in real-life
[00:53]<rjrgjdygrf>s/featured/features/
[01:10]<smgmq>Linux Pre-installed on a AMD 64-bit Based System for $300
[01:11]<zjzw>what's the difference between Opteron and Athlon64 anyhow, just cache size?
[01:11]<tggcrwr>synd2: ooh.. where?
[01:12]<smgmq>http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php/20060713123927205
[01:12]<kgzggfo7>rorx: basicly, Opterons also require ECC memory
[01:12]<wjgcgu>lol
[01:12]<zjzw>Kernel86: oh really, require?
[01:12]<wjgcgu>amd has stopped allmsot all his processor
[01:12]<wjgcgu>almost*
[01:12]<kgzggfo7>yeah, no unbuffered
[01:12]<wjgcgu>as the amd64
[01:12]<wjgcgu>because they don't support ddr2
[01:12]<wjgcgu>..
[01:13]<wjgcgu>so amd sempron and athlon (the both are 64bits on last release) will be probably cheap
[01:13]<wjgcgu>since they need to sell their deprecated stock
[01:13]<zjzw>I thought there was a substantial price difference between the two, so that's the reason I ask.
[01:13]<wjgcgu>technically i don't know exactly the diff except the cache
[01:14]<wjgcgu>a technical site would be better :p
[01:14]<zjzw>course sram is pricey, so that difference alone could account for it.
[01:15]<zjzw>sounds like the initial benchmarks of the conroe put it ahead of amd's stuff in quite a few categories.
[01:15]<wjgcgu>clearly
[01:15]<zjzw>from what I remember almost everything but memory bandwidth.
[01:16]<kgzggfo7>that might cream it --> http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21985
[01:16]<zjzw>goes to show that there's still a lot of performance to be extracted from systems with external MMUs.
[01:18]<zjzw>they look to be pretty expensive though.
[01:18]<zjzw>pentium D on the other hand is a bargain now.
[01:27]<vnaxzusx>damn UPS didnt bring my pentium d system today
[01:27]<vnaxzusx>:[
[01:27]<vnaxzusx>jerks.
[01:30]<zjzw>I think the lowend pentium D will drop to $50
[01:45]<ryys>7pa
[01:50]<scdanzsnd>0502Back05 Duration..::027hrs 17mins05::.. Reason..::02sleep05::.. Time is now: 05026:49am05 05.0205UPP0205.
[01:51]<zyzxzzmp>what the fuck was that?
[01:51]<wjgcgu>berkkkk
[01:51]<wjgcgu>it's ****ing script RichardP
[01:51]<wjgcgu>with ****ing colors :p
[01:51]<wjgcgu>and ****ing charset
[01:51]<wjgcgu>of a ****ing user :p
[02:19]<vrgucy>Bah. iLife 06 won't let me not install GarageBand
[02:21]<lzzzrjga>its trying to do you a favor ;D
[02:21]<wjgcgu>weird sentence :p
[02:21]<dzzydns>totally
[02:22]<agp>tanuki: then uninstall it afterwards
[02:28]<rvdrv>hi
[03:10]<dzzygg>what are these objc_sharing_ppc_<uid> files in /tmp
[03:10]<dzzygg>?
[03:12]<wjgcgu>probably temp files :p
[03:12]<wjgcgu>using by some app
[03:13]<wjgcgu>strings it, file it, ls it, don't know how could we be know that
[03:13]<wjgcgu>you are the best placed
[03:13]<dzzygg>yeah, but I can't be the only one who sees them
[03:14]<wjgcgu>how have you discovered
[03:14]<wjgcgu>this file ?
[03:15]<dzzygg>they get created all the time
[03:15]<wjgcgu>it isn't so usal to look /tmp
[03:15]<dzzygg>whenever i'm in /tmp I see them
[03:15]<wjgcgu>ok
[03:15]<dzzygg>I'm in /tmp more than most people, I guess :p
[03:17]<wjgcgu>what do you do in this 777 heaven ? :p
[03:30]<zudl>i can never catch notices with colloquy
[03:31]<wjgcgu>-lilo- [Global Notice] Things should slowly return to normal. Apologies for the inconvenience, and thank you again for your patience.
[03:31]<wjgcgu>-lilo- [Global Notice] This should be our last glitch, apologies in advance.
[03:31]<wjgcgu>-lilo- [Global Notice] Hi all. Reminder: various netlink and other browsers have an exploit which allows someone to type a 'DC C' string (without the space) on channel and drop people off the network. We've had ongoing problems with hit and run artists knocking people off the network using that exploit.
[03:31]<wjgcgu>-lilo- [Global Notice] You may want to reconnect to the network via port 8001, rather than port 6667 (the default). This will render the exploit ineffective. Thanks.
[03:31]<wjgcgu>-lilo- [Global Notice] whoops, excuse me..... that should be 'routers' rather than browsers'....typo of the day. Thanks. :)
[03:31]<wjgcgu>now you catch.
[03:31]<zysa>hi all
[03:31]<zysa>hey althalus
[03:31]<zudl>ty wonknu
[03:31]<wjgcgu>lilo the wallop spammer
[03:31]<wjgcgu>io risc







