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[00:00]<smgm1>I have a QS trigger tied to fast logout
[00:00]<djdf>hey folks. where can I find some good info on optimizing my network throughput in os x? the workstations here are interconnected by a gigabit lan and I would like to see us go from the ~200Mbps we get now on TCP applications like scp up to as close to the 1Gbps capacity as possible
[00:00]<smgm1>cmd-esc
[00:00]<smgm1>Easy as pie
[00:00]<c-rjm>doml: Buy a switch.
[00:00]<djdf>k-god like a cisco catalyst 6500? yeah, I have one
[00:00]<cryus>synd3: interferes with other stuff for me :P but yeah, I could stick a key combo on it
[00:00]<a1>this isn't #cisco
[00:01]<smgm1>Caius: Butler sucks
[00:01]<cryus>textmate seems to have stolen most of my key combos heh
[00:01]<cryus>synd3: not at all, QS is the sucky one
[00:01]<c-rjm>WTF does ^\ mean in Mac keys?
[00:01]<djdf>j3 that's why I didn't ask about the cisco. I don't need switch advice
[00:01]<a1>you sure?
[00:01]<smgm1>Caius: You are the only person around here that says that
[00:01]<xasv>hahahahah http://flickr.com/photos/seattle_roll/196697272/
[00:01]<c-rjm>Ah. ctrl-backstroke.
[00:01]<gndj_>vim > textmate
[00:02]<cryus>indeed, I'm the only person that finds QS confusing and butler not so confusing
[00:02]<cryus>nemo_: naw, mouse control and snippets are great
[00:02]<smgm1>Because you are a backwards thinking Brit, Caius !
[00:02]<cryus>nemo_: ever watched a screencast of textmate?
[00:02]<gndj_>yup
[00:02]<cryus>synd3: no, because I like the fact that butler does what I want, and I'm happy with it
[00:02]<smgm1>Doesn't matter, Butler is still inferior
[00:03]<a1>jesus christ ing direct has the most crazy security ever
[00:03]<c-rjm>synd3: A masterfully substantiated comment as always.
[00:03]<smgm1>k-god: A masturfully useless comment as always.
[00:03]<cryus>synd3: I don't want an ultimate app for os x, I use it for app launch, web search, itunes search, itunes control and running scripts
[00:03]<cryus>and it does that fast, with a useable interface
[00:04]<smgm1>Caius: At least you admit Butler is inferiorr
[00:04]<smgm1>-r
[00:04]<cryus>synd3: it is because it doesn't do all that QS does, but it does other bits well
[00:04]<cryus>like searching iTunes and playing songs from a dialog, which QS doesn't do at all when I looked at it about a month ago
[00:05]<djdf>anyhow, any recommended sites on getting OS X optimized for the network?
[00:05]<smgm1>You obviously didn't look hard enough, but that's okay!
[00:05]<gnjd>LOL
[00:05]<gnjd>You're too funny.
[00:05]<gndj_>Caius
[00:05]<cryus>synd3: it does search the library and stuff, but not as easily (to the way I think and use it) as butler does
[00:06]<gndj_>type "Browse" in QS
[00:06]<xasv>am I the only person still using launchbar?
[00:06]<gnjd>nemo! :)
[00:06]<ggrfrvgm>QS is amazing for itunes browsing
[00:06]<gndj_>neom! :D
[00:06]<gndj_>not amazing
[00:06]<gndj_>it doesn't let me browse my ipod
[00:06]<gndj_>:|
[00:06]<ggrfrvgm>I have a hotkey that skips the having to type browse music
[00:06]<smgm1>Caius: Yes, and that goes back to my comment on your backwards thinking
[00:06]<rgmygyus>I got rid of QS on my MacBook. Got tired of it crashing
[00:06]<rgmygyus>Still use it on the iBook and PowerMac
[00:06]<smgm1>You're probably the only Butler user ever, Caius
[00:06]<cryus>synd3: its like vi vs emacs, people love one and don't use the other, but argue about it forever more
[00:07]<cryus>synd3: not true, all mac users I know in real life use it :)
[00:07]<smgm1>Caius: Except you are the *only* person around that argues Butler
[00:07]<zzzjgp0>nano kicks ass you fool
[00:07]<cryus>synd3: yeah, I'm the only one to stick up for it
[00:07]<xasv>hahahaha
[00:07]<smgm1>Caius: Because, like I said earlier, of your backwards thinking
[00:07]<cryus>you have to read tutorials on how to setup quicksilver anyway to do anything advanced, butler is pretty easy compared
[00:08]<zzzjgp0>what is the point of the vi-emacs thing?
[00:08]<smgm1>Butler is for simpletons with zero intuitiveness
[00:08]<zzzjgp0>emacs sucks, they just cant get over it...
[00:08]<zjzw>not
[00:08]<cryus>synd3: quicksilver is for zealots that love to crow they have the best app and show off what it can do
[00:08]<gndj_>haha
[00:08]<zzzjgp0>although youll never see me defending vi
[00:08]<ggrfrvgm>Caius: then why do i use it?
[00:08]<smgm1>Caius: Wrong. Quicksilver is for those "in the know"
[00:09]<xasv>aaronf0: please don't start that argument up all over again
[00:09]<xasv>:)
[00:09]<zzzjgp0>i want an argument over why theres an argument
[00:09]<ggrfrvgm>QS is literally all that in a bag of chips plus tax with receipt
[00:09]<sxzzcxzv>mmm ruffles..
[00:09]<zzzjgp0>now real men know how to use locate
[00:09]<sxzzcxzv>with ridges
[00:09]<cryus>aaronf0: heh
[00:09]<zzzjgp0>stop being babies and learn real haxorz stuff
[00:10]<smgm1>aaronf0: Stop being annoying
[00:10]<zzzjgp0>im shitting around with the fools who are being annoying about finding tools
[00:10]<cryus>aaronf0: visor + locate | find == haxor?
[00:10]<sxzzcxzv>i hope in 10.5 they change the spinny beach ball wait curser
[00:10]<zzzjgp0>no, im making a funny
[00:10]<sxzzcxzv>to somthing more fun
[00:10]<c-rjm>What's the command to set / read system prefs?
[00:11]<cryus>defaults
[00:11]<ggrfrvgm>to a bouncing spinning beach ball wait cursor!
[00:11]<sxzzcxzv>chmod?
[00:11]<c-rjm>Caius: Danke.
[00:11]<cryus>k-god: np :)
[00:11]<sxzzcxzv>enclaved: yea! squishing up and down
[00:11]<zzzjgp0>sharkhat: prefs not perms
[00:11]<zzzjgp0>how about bubbles?
[00:11]<zzzjgp0>or gerbils?
[00:11]<sxzzcxzv>aaronf0: o sorry..
[00:11]<ggrfrvgm>yeah, i mean, the 'hey, there's a problem cursor, should be complicated enough to merit it's own wait cursor for when it has problems, that's my thinking'
[00:11]<zzzjgp0>gerbils that keep spawning as the process takes longer
[00:12]<cryus>aaronf0: change the .png's of the spinning beach ball cursor in /System then
[00:12]<zzzjgp0>Caius: youll need a bit more than .pngs to make gerbil spawning hell out of your cursor







