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[00:00]<draogcy>glen_quagmire, you can check that by using ls -al in a terminal
[00:00]<draogcy>if -> exists then it is a symbolic link
[00:01]<ezygz>what is the best ftp thingy for mac?
[00:02]<zyzxzzmp>ErinR: now THATS a question and half
[00:02]<zudl>cyberduck is a good free one
[00:02]<ezygz>:) yes i'm aware
[00:02]<zudl>whats that dump truck icon one
[00:03]<ezygz>i like free :D
[00:03]<zudl>i use cyberduck cause it can transfer via ssh/scp too
[00:03]<zyzxzzmp>when Crossover comes to Intel Macs, im using SmartFTP
[00:03]<cryus>RichardP: transmit
[00:03]<draogcy>ErinR, /usr/bin/ftp :-)
[00:03]<zudl>and free:)
[00:03]<cryus>RichardP: oops, meant rump
[00:03]<cryus>rump: transmit
[00:03]<zyzxzzmp>Caius: tried it, hate it
[00:03]<zudl>yeah transmit that's what i was thinking of
[00:04]<cryus>RichardP: really? I think its one of the best apps for OS X
[00:04]<ezygz>macOnki: /usr/bin/ftp doesn't mean anythign to me :)
[00:04]<zudl>it gets crazy reviews
[00:04]<cryus>wwpd!
[00:04]<zms>Transmit is the tits
[00:04]<draogcy>ErinR, it might do all you want :-)
[00:04]<ezygz>macOnki: haha it might, if i knew what it was ;)
[00:04]<zyzxzzmp>Caius: what would peter do?
[00:05]<cryus>RichardP: panic
[00:05]<draogcy>ErinR, it's an ftp client
[00:05]<zyzxzzmp>ahh
[00:05]<zyzxzzmp>oh
[00:05]<zyzxzzmp>ok
[00:05]<cryus>err, what would panic do
[00:05]<zyzxzzmp>ARGHGHGHGHGH HHGHGH
[00:05]<zyzxzzmp>THEY ARE COMING!
[00:05]<cryus>not peter would panic xD
[00:05]<zyzxzzmp>RUN!
[00:05]<cryus>RichardP: Dr who?
[00:05]<zyzxzzmp>IM PANICKING!
[00:05]<cryus>oh
[00:05]<zyzxzzmp>BLBLBLLBLBLBLBL
[00:05]<cryus>ace
[00:05]<gndj_>CyberDuck is pretty decent
[00:05]<gndj_>;p
[00:05]<ezygz>thanks guys :)
[00:06]<zyzxzzmp>anyway, night all
[00:07]<vjddnrx>phew, shapeshifter is stress, u always have to relog into osx to see all changes
[00:09]<rf2j>anyone on an intel mac?
[00:09]<zudl>anyone not :)
[00:09]<rf2j>rump: im assuming you are, areyou able to compile this http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wput/wput-0.5.tgz
[00:10]<zudl>i dont have xcode installed
[00:10]<zudl>so no
[00:10]<zudl>use fink albo
[00:11]<rf2j>i use fink rump. any more questions?
[00:11]<zudl>no that's all for now??
[00:11]<zudl>thanks
[00:18]<jur>can someone point me how should I configure Terminal.app to use utf8 so that non-ascii characters would work right
[00:19]<smgmt>Ain't a Firefox fan, but this brings back memories: http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/07/26/cybernotes-a-look-back-at-firefox-phoenix-01/
[00:20]<draogcy>Jug, isn't that default?
[00:21]<smgmt>Ten-year-old Apple Newton beats latest Windows UMPC
[00:21]<smgmt>http://crave.cnet.co.uk/handhelds/0,39029444,49282366,00.htm
[00:21]<smgmt>Heh
[00:22]<wjmznz>still have phonenix on my powerbook
[00:23]<wjmznz>was a good browser in its day
[00:23]<gru>Firefox <3
[00:23]<vjddnrx>most funny thing on osx is the trial software ... u can just reinstall it and get 30 days more to play with it ... :)
[00:24]<wjmznz>like iwork?
[00:24]<smgmt>Or just insert the easily-found serial :)
[00:24]<draogcy>tomyeah, most anoying ;-)
[00:25]<psnumjpfran2j>Anyone know anything about an application that maps keyboard an mouse buttons to actions?
[00:25]<wjmznz>pages etc reset if you remove one pref file can't rember which off hand
[00:25]<psnumjpfran2j>Like I have a play/pause button on my keyboard, is there something to let me map that to iTunes' play/pause functions, or similar?
[00:25]<gru>Sizzingkeys4itunes
[00:26]<psnumjpfran2j>=]
[00:26]<gru>Err, there should be an l in there :p
[00:26]<smgmt>I don't think Sizzlingkeys can do that.
[00:27]<smgmt>It can only map key-combos, from when I last used it. I nixed it after I realized QS can do the same things
[00:27]<vjddnrx>PseudoPlacebo: only if that keys have an effect on something like a usual textedit field
[00:27]<gru>I mapped my play/pause to F7
[00:27]<psnumjpfran2j>Well, like I just got rid of my Apple keyboard and got a new Logitech one, and it has play/pause/skip/reverse on the right side.
[00:27]<psnumjpfran2j>Dedicated.
[00:28]<vjddnrx>i couldnt find a proper driver for my german pc keyboard yet
[00:28]<psnumjpfran2j>Is there something (like mouseworks back in the day) that lets me map those out?
[00:28]<gru>(and F6 and F8 as back and forward, respectively)
[00:28]<smgmt>There's drivers that would be needed, PseudoPlacebo
[00:28]<psnumjpfran2j>synd5, it's XP drivers only for this baby. I looked into that.
[00:29]<smgmt>Then I would suppose you are SOL, PseudoPlacebo
[00:29]<psnumjpfran2j>But I remember Mousworks would be able to map out keyboard buttons, and it would do any mouse. Without their drivers. I was curious as to whether there is something similar for a keyboard.
[00:30]<smgmt>Never came across anything of the sort myself. If you find a solution, be sure to let us know, PseudoPlacebo.
[00:30]<psnumjpfran2j>I might end up writing something.
[00:30]<psnumjpfran2j>-sigh-
[00:31]<psnumjpfran2j>I need a summer project. =\
[00:31]<smgmt>I'm sure there are many people out there who'd benefit from that :)
[00:31]<psnumjpfran2j>Yeh.
[00:31]<smgmt>What model Logitech?
[00:31]<psnumjpfran2j>Uhm.
[00:31]<psnumjpfran2j>S510 cordless.
[00:32]<smgmt>Ah.
[00:33]<smgmt>Have you tried getting it to work with iTunes in Windows?
[00:33]<smgmt>Probably won't matter on the OS X end, but I'm just curious

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