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[00:00]<cxdnz>holy dang, risc, what a blind spot
[00:00]<cxdnz>i didn't want to do that because it wouldn't let me save each message as an individual rtf, it concatenated them all
[00:01]<cxdnz>but then when i gave up and said "hell i'll just do an mbox" i was already trying to figure it out in applescript-land
[00:01]<cxdnz>thanks!
[00:01]<mmpzgdgg>yeah i'd say mbox is the way to go
[00:01]<mmpzgdgg>very portable and flexible too
[00:02]<zysa>http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html -- scripts to export mail as .txt or .rtf
[00:02]<cxdnz>risc: i've been trying those, the "archive" exporting script hangs forever at 100% cpu time on my 8000-message box
[00:03]<zysa>well you do have 8000 emails ;)
[00:03]<cxdnz>i know i do!
[00:03]<nwp>khmer: make a file with 5 messages and try the script
[00:03]<cxdnz>and i waited for four hours!
[00:03]<nwp>see if it works
[00:03]<cxdnz>e1f: i did try with smaller boxes. the script handled up to 200-message boxes in seconds
[00:03]<wjgcgu>text... perl....
[00:03]<nwp>it may not scale up
[00:04]<cxdnz>how does one access applescript env?
[00:04]<cxdnz>e1f: that is apparent
[00:06]<yz2mrvym>khmer: what do you mean by that?
[00:08]<cxdnz>irbdavid: my guess is that the applescript doesn't scale because of appleevent timeouts
[00:09]<cxdnz>the way applescript is structured means that for long loops, parts of the program that have interrupt spend timeout intervals waiting for any acknowledgment that anything else is working
[00:09]<cxdnz>applescripts that are given big chunks of data to process often throw timeout errors
[00:09]<cxdnz>i've always wondered if i can increase the global timeout
[00:09]<cxdnz>but i've never known how
[00:13]<nwp>there is grepmail
[00:13]<nwp>you might be able to wriye a wrapper around that
[00:22]<pzzzuygg>I've discovered something interesting about my iBook. When the top shield is screwed on the graphics doesn't work (no picture whatsoever), but when I remove it the display works fine. :/
[00:22]<cxdnz>farruinn: bad reed switch/inverter
[00:22]<pzzzuygg>I doubt a laptop would survive long w/o the shields though.
[00:23]<cxdnz>take it in
[00:23]<pzzzuygg>Is that something that needs to be replaced?
[00:23]<kgzggfj7|frlvjl>sounds like a bad wire or a short somewhere
[00:23]<cxdnz>farruinn: yeah, afraid so, they're very easy to break
[00:23]<pzzzuygg>finger khmer
[00:23]<sxzcgslgzzgfzg0w>Macbooks wool.
[00:24]<pzzzuygg>sorry
[00:24]<cxdnz>farruinn: you've at least gotta buy me dinner
[00:25]<wnzwnsw1to>Heloo
[00:25]<wnzwnsw1to>Hello
[00:25]<cxdnz>WHO DARES DISTURB MY ETERNAL SLUMBER
[00:26]<wnzwnsw1to>Does anyone here has OmniGraffle at hand right now ? (I want to you to save my file as an XML file because I need a Omnigraffle file right now and I dont have Omnigraffle at hand)
[00:34]<pzzzuygg>khmer: What is the reed switch/inverter and where is it? (this is a G3 iBook btw)
[00:34]<cxdnz>farruinn: you can look it up on ifixit.com
[00:36]<pzzzuygg>thanks
[00:40]<pzzzuygg>I'm confused, it doesn't seem like there's actually anything broken. When I screw on the top shield the graphics doesn't work. When I remove the top shield the graphics do work.
[00:43]<wnzwnsw1to>No one can do it for me ??
[00:43]<cxdnz>farruinn: the contacts are susceptible to pressure
[00:43]<cxdnz>if the circuit is that delicate it will only deteriorate
[00:43]<cxdnz>the part should probably be replaced.
[00:44]<pzzzuygg>damn. I see the part you're talking about too, now.
[00:44]<yvcjvyrg>hello. any pointers to where I might find a solution to the following problem?
[00:44]<pzzzuygg>khmer: thanks for the help
[00:44]<yvcjvyrg>when trying to log in on my macbook, the normal keys are non-functional, all I can enter is the numeric keypad keys
[00:44]<yvcjvyrg>I've restarted the machine, to no avail
[00:47]<yvcjvyrg>every time I get to the login screen the pasword fields seems to indicate the caps is on while it is not ...
[00:47]<yvcjvyrg>and I cannot type in anything except stuff from the num keypad ... both caps and num light are on during boot and they cannot be turned off
[00:48]<fuznnvyffn>interesting
[00:50]<yvcjvyrg>uhu :-)
[00:58]<cxdnz>Itkovian: have you tried an external usb keyboard to see if it works?
[00:58]<yvcjvyrg>don't have any
[00:58]<yvcjvyrg>what's the key combo to see the boot sequence detail?
[00:59]<yvcjvyrg>ok, I'm in
[00:59]<yvcjvyrg>with caps and num lock on
[00:59]<yvcjvyrg>tried that before though
[00:59]<yvcjvyrg>now to get back
[01:02]<ndptalot>No one has a monitor big enough to view this picture: http://www.lovepixel.idv.tw/
[01:02]<yvcjvyrg>really.
[01:02]<ndptalot>Really.
[01:13]<yvcjvyrg>rescaling is a neat process
[01:26]<2yvpfnsx>does anybody have experience with dashboard widget development? I'm trying to write a simple widget but I may be missing something...
[01:27]<wnffd>anyone know of any post-it note type apps for osx? preferably not ones that sit in the widget area because i don't use it
[01:28]<su2fydn>welly: stickies comes with the os
[01:28]<fuznnvyffn>"Stickies", which is included with OSX
[01:28]<wnffd>my god! it does too!
[01:28]<wnffd>they've thought of everything
[01:28]<wnffd>well, i'll be blown. check them out
[01:29]<fuznnvyffn>i always mean to use stickies, but habit has me opening Terminal and typing `vi` to make notes
[01:31]<fuznnvyffn>i played with VoodooPad for a bit. it's worth looking at.
[01:31]<wnffd>heh.. i've set it up as a login item
[01:31]<wnffd>can't be that resource hungry
[01:32]<2yvpfnsx>any macosx developer channel where to ask?
[01:32]<fuznnvyffn>i have stickies on the dock. still can't remember to use it
[01:32]<wnffd>lol
[01:32]<zgw2dgzzd>bitflesh, #macdev
[01:32]<wnffd>i didn't know the buggers were there
[01:32]<wnffd>until just now
[01:32]<2yvpfnsx>thanks
[01:56]<drvyddrrr2n>So what causes beach-ball spinning?
[01:56]<drvyddrrr2n>My mother has been reporting a skyrocket in the amount of spinning on her 400MHz imac the last few monthhts.
[01:56]<drvyddrrr2n>It doesn't seem to be page-swapping, since the page-in/page-out meter doesn't increment when the spinning happens.
[01:57]<drvyddrrr2n>unless that isn't real-time or something.
[01:59]<fuznnvyffn>you can use `vm_stat` to show paging activity from Terminal
[02:00]<fuznnvyffn>if you're looking for a second opinion :-)
[02:00]<fuznnvyffn>ie.. run `vm_stat 5`
[02:00]<drvyddrrr2n>wow.
[02:01]<drvyddrrr2n>on my machine it looks like there's a low level of continual paging, even when nothing is happening.
[02:01]<drvyddrrr2n>thanks for the pointer; I'll try it.
[02:01]<fuznnvyffn>imho, apple should not be selling computers with 512mb

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