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[00:00]<wjgcgu>that computer are here for doing automatic and multiple task ;)
[00:00]<svjggggwv>so f**ked X.org is a total pita :(
[00:00]<wjgcgu>i have automated some compilation and update process too on my boxes
[00:00]<drfyr_>veklita, it should just work do you have the software on both?
[00:00]<wjgcgu>tired to recompile each weeks same things for an option that i don't care :)
[00:00]<vncfyvr>yea
[00:00]<vncfyvr>palm desktop windows exports calendars only to .dba
[00:00]<vncfyvr>and palm desktop mac doesn't appear to import .dba files
[00:00]<svjggggwv>wonknu: basically we use debian but a little twisted for our benifit
[00:01]<wjgcgu>malia_, and i forgot, 2 good friends live in the same student residence
[00:01]<wjgcgu>less than ten doors from me ;)
[00:02]<wjgcgu>Stonenewt, i don't like debian though it is automated, i am more a slackware boy, but i respect your choice :)
[00:02]<drfyr_>ooh kool wonknu.
[00:02]<wjgcgu>it's not my problem if you use debian, but thinking to the big numbers of distro that exist
[00:02]<wjgcgu>i don't understand ppl who choose debian, but this is my subjectiv
[00:02]<svjggggwv>slackware is to much of a pain to deal with admining large numbers of
[00:02]<wjgcgu>point of view :p
[00:02]<wjgcgu>yep Stonenewt i agree
[00:03]<wjgcgu>i use it since i am not in the case of course
[00:03]<svjggggwv>I use slack at home if fBSD doesn't work...
[00:03]<wjgcgu>netbsd slackintosh slackware windows macosx, od, etc.. but most on win mac net and slack
[00:04]<svjggggwv>but for work a deb based distro is the simplest and easiest choice for us
[00:04]<wjgcgu>eheh we can discut all the night (which will not happen :p) about why we choose this or that distro
[00:04]<wjgcgu>but finally it really depends on tastes, and what is important
[00:04]<svjggggwv>not to mention when debian say stable they MEAN it!
[00:04]<wjgcgu>is more who are behind the boxes
[00:04]<wnffd>back in a bit.. i'm off to the pub for cider
[00:04]<wjgcgu>instead of what are in the boxes
[00:05]<svjggggwv>as in patches not version upgrades etc... we like to know how our apps are broken ;)
[00:05]<wjgcgu>but you will never know when mother server are broken ;)
[00:06]<wjgcgu>nevermind, i would like to try openvms these days
[00:06]<wjgcgu>heard it mosts used in banks system, and other related companies
[00:06]<wjgcgu>probably really painfull but pretty secure from what i have heard
[00:13]<dzugcggdjguv>Woo! the thunder's getting a touch loud here
[00:14]<dzugcggdjguv>and the rain is comng down hard
[00:14]<wjgcgu>300 000 volts
[00:14]<wjgcgu>(slurp)
[00:15]<pnvnz66>is parallels 64-bit only now?
[00:16]<zjzw>Peter77: no
[00:16]<pnvnz66>ok, it's just a new version has been released
[00:17]<pnvnz66>funilly enough apple and amazon were out of stock around the release of the core 2 duo imacs
[00:17]<dzugcggdjguv>I have thunder warning.. lightning sets off a toy here, which makes a chirp before the thunder is heard :D
[00:17]<pnvnz66>cool
[00:17]<pnvnz66>our satelite tv just loses it's signal :-)
[00:17]<dzugcggdjguv>@_@
[00:17]<dzugcggdjguv>OMFG
[00:18]<dzugcggdjguv>that one flashed bright enough through the window :p
[00:18]<zyzxzzmp_>heh, conversation on a forum: 'Russian space rocket engines are crap!' 'uh, Lockheed uses them for the Atlas series, and they are used on the Delta series as well' 'oh, russian rocket engines rock'
[00:19]<pnvnz66>erm you better save you stuff DrunkenDonut
[00:20]<pnvnz66>RichardP_: arn't the rockets that the russians use more reliable than the NASA space shuttles
[00:21]<zyzxzzmp_>Peter77: about the same reliability, same number of fatal flights in the same number of total flights, but the Shuttles fatal flights lost more crew
[00:21]<zyzxzzmp_>Peter77: Soyuz is vastly more cheaper however
[00:22]<zyzxzzmp_>about $50mill a launch verses the Shuttles $500mill average
[00:22]<lzvzyc_dzw>hi all
[00:22]<pnvnz66>wow since the 1960's
[00:26]<pnvnz66>I wounder if leopard will be released after vista!
[00:32]<zavuzgnz>Peter77 - it will be interesting to see how the release schedules work out come Spring. who wants to be first, who waits for the other to crash and burn or other...
[00:32]<zavuzgnz>it seems that by pushing Leopard from Dec06 to Spring07 Apple is looking to *directly* challenge WinOS
[00:33]<pnvnz66>lol, I'm probably going to upgrade mac first
[00:33]<pnvnz66>windows is too famous for having problems with new operating systems
[00:33]<dzzydns>or maybe they don't want another tiger release
[00:33]<pnvnz66>what happend with tiger?
[00:34]<dzzydns>look at it, there are a lot of half-baked implementations in it that will finally have a chance to firm up in leopard (spotlight, launchd for example)
[00:35]<pnvnz66>does anyone here use widgets a lot?
[00:35]<mycn`>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXnO_FxmHes you _need_ to see this
[00:35]<zavuzgnz>Peter77: yes
[00:35]<zavuzgnz>Peter77 - check out DashSaver - makes widgets a lot more useful ;)
[00:35]<pnvnz66>will do
[00:36]<pnvnz66>dashsaver 1.2?
[00:37]<zavuzgnz>yup
[00:41]<mrrygmrg>hey guys i have a problem, i have a dlink router, i have forgotten my password and i'm not sure how to reset it without access
[00:41]<zznd->. . .
[00:41]<zznd->consult dlink.
[00:42]<zznd->no factory reset button?
[00:42]<mrrygmrg>well there is a reset button to restart the router
[00:44]<zznd->MacinMan: well, dlink.com probably has a support site.
[00:44]<zznd->MacinMan: a lot of times those sorts of buttons can maybe be held down for 10 seconds when plugging in or something to factory reset
[00:44]<drfyr_>MacinMan, just hit the reset, it will forget its password, honest
[00:45]<mrrygmrg>ok
[00:45]<drfyr_>you probably need a ballp;oint pen and 30 seconds
[00:47]<drfyr_>I personally need 30 mins and a nap
[00:48]<drfyr_>heh heh
[00:49]<mnajzn>hahahaha
[00:49]<mnajzn>That was pretty good.
[00:50]<cryus>I misread stuff all the time :(
[00:50]<mnajzn>http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/8/135818/8140
[00:50]<drfyr_>Caius, it makes life more interesting
[00:50]<cryus>malia_: damn right
[00:51]<drfyr_>this cracked me up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AScRt9L2BdM
[00:51]<mrrygmrgw>nice got it
[00:51]<mnajzn>http://www.gotfuturama.com/Multimedia/EpisodeSounds/1ACV08/11.mp3
[00:51]<mnajzn>better
[00:51]<mnajzn>;)
[00:51]<mrrygmrgw>have to redo all my rules but oh well
[00:56]<2zdrgf_>i made the plunge and disabled the finder with pathfinder
[00:56]<2zdrgf_>i won't miss it
[01:03]<pnvnz66>is it possible to split the windows partition created by boot camp?
[01:06]<-- rfgw_yjggsru xrs>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/ <- 3,400,000,000+ users can't be wrong")

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