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[00:01]<rmr>'night all
[00:03]<2urrr>hi, someone knows a free replacement for iClock? (i dont need all that features, only yr/month/day + time), wClock site is down, and that was the only replacement i found.
[00:04]<-- dvxn|syzzzyus xzs>http://www.bagdadsoftware.de")
[00:07]<cryus>bucca: run `date "+%H:%M"` in the terminal
[00:07]<cryus>;)
[00:08]<2urrr>:D
[00:08]<ragnw2jfm>hey there
[00:08]<ragnw2jfm>is there a "find" command other than Spotlight?
[00:08]<2urrr>yes, its called `find` :D
[00:09]<ragnw2jfm>ah, heh
[00:09]<ragnw2jfm>in the terminal?
[00:09]<2urrr>yes
[00:09]<cryus>man find
[00:09]<ragnw2jfm>hmm
[00:09]<2urrr>man find if youre not familiar with it
[00:09]<ragnw2jfm>in terminal, how do I set my path to another drive?
[00:09]<ragnw2jfm>or rather set the current location
[00:09]<ragnw2jfm>focus, whatever :-)
[00:09]<cryus>ajnewbold: cd /Volumes/Drive\ Name/
[00:09]<zfgwzgmgz>anyone here know how to use wildcards in route add ?
[00:09]<cryus>ajnewbold: change directory to the root of another drive? :P
[00:10]<ragnw2jfm>Caius: yeah, that's what I was trying to say :-P
[00:10]<fuznnvyffn>alexander: can you give an example?
[00:10]<zfgwzgmgz>pureeville, for instance, i can do:
[00:10]<zfgwzgmgz>route add 140.211.166.3 172.129.253.73
[00:11]<zfgwzgmgz>but i want to route all traffic to the second ip
[00:11]<fuznnvyffn>alexander: route add default 172.129.253.73 ?
[00:11]<zfgwzgmgz>but not all traffic
[00:11]<zfgwzgmgz>because then my internet wouldn't work, i think
[00:12]<ragnw2jfm>hmm
[00:12]<zfgwzgmgz>wouldn't that also try to route 127.0.0 ?
[00:12]<ragnw2jfm>there's no gui find feature? I'm trying to sell my wife on getting a mac for herself, but she's deathly afraid of terminals and such :-)
[00:12]<fuznnvyffn>no, most specific route wins. 127.0.0.0/8 is more specific than 0.0.0.0/0
[00:12]<ragnw2jfm>oh nvm
[00:12]<cryus>ajnewbold: spotlight
[00:12]<ragnw2jfm>Spotlight found it after all :-)
[00:13]<ragnw2jfm>It just took it a few moment
[00:13]<zfgwzgmgz>ok i will try this
[00:13]<zfgwzgmgz>route: writing to routing socket: File exists
[00:13]<zfgwzgmgz>add net default: gateway 172.129.253.73: File exists
[00:13]<2urrr>ajnewbold: you could try quicksilver (quicksilver.blacktree.com), another great app to find apps and such
[00:13]<zfgwzgmgz>hey sorry about that
[00:14]<ragnw2jfm>yeah I've heard great things about quicksilver
[00:14]<zfgwzgmgz>did i miss something?
[00:15]<frufwyfmn_>Hey - Is this an OS X virus? - http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2006-063013-2645-99
[00:15]<vzjdvzjd>hmm i thought virus was only confined to windows world
[00:15]<frufwyfmn_>same.
[00:16]<frufwyfmn_>plus Symantec said there was 0 known viruses for OS X.
[00:16]<cryus>paulwilde_: there are 0 virus's for OS X
[00:16]<ragnw2jfm>anyone know if a single copy of Microsoft Office Student and Teacher edition can be loaded on two machines without crap from MS?
[00:16]<frufwyfmn_>Caius: Look at that link.
[00:16]<cryus>paulwilde_: "Type: Trojan Horse"
[00:16]<frufwyfmn_>Caius: Isn't that a virus?
[00:16]<cryus>paulwilde_: no
[00:16]<frufwyfmn_>Caius: Spyware? What is it? Aha.
[00:17]<cryus>virus self propagates, thus can't exist on OS X
[00:17]<vzjdvzjd>i need .chm reader for os x on debian i use xchm
[00:18]<ragnw2jfm>I need to find a damn mouse pad that doesn't suck
[00:19]<fuznnvyffn>ajnewbold: i'm fond of the ones made by 3M
[00:19]<ragnw2jfm>that's one I got
[00:19]<fuznnvyffn>doh
[00:19]<ragnw2jfm>it looked nice.... 3M Precise Mousing Surface
[00:19]<ragnw2jfm>with an attached leather wristwrest
[00:19]<2jsjww9t>Yeah
[00:19]<ragnw2jfm>but it gunked up my desk surface :-(
[00:21]<fuznnvyffn>i've used the wristwrestless ones only, but it does tend to fuse to the desk
[00:22]<2jsjww9t>It gunked it up, all right.
[00:22]<ragnw2jfm>at the store here they have a cool round promotional Apple mousepad with the Dashboard logo on it
[00:22]<fuznnvyffn>i don't think computers had mice when i was 6
[00:22]<ragnw2jfm>actually the mousepad pretty much IS the dashboard logo
[00:22]<cryus>ajnewbold: heh
[00:23]<ragnw2jfm>it's not for sale though :-(
[00:23]<cryus>steal it!!
[00:23]<ragnw2jfm>heh, it's one of those grody display model ones
[00:23]<ragnw2jfm>with the dirt and grime of a million sloppy obese American customers
[00:25]<ragnw2jfm>heh good
[00:25]<ragnw2jfm>it's sad to be American these days :-(
[00:26]<2jsjww9t>I'm American
[00:27]<2jsjww9t>And I think ajnewbold meant "grotty"
[00:27]<ragnw2jfm>hehe
[00:27]<2jsjww9t>You arrogant cock licker
[00:27]<ragnw2jfm>well, as an American, I'm not expected to be able to spell :-)
[00:27]<2jsjww9t>Whatever.
[00:30]<zj2js>does anyone use the Kate text editor on osx?
[00:30]<zj2js>it's the editor that KDE uses
[00:30]<czugc->heya
[00:31]<zj2js>ahoy
[00:31]<czugc->I know there have been a couple of virtual pc alternatives to come out
[00:31]<czugc->are any of them worth checking out?
[00:32]<fuznnvyffn>Parallels works, if you have an intel mac
[00:33]<wzzgzum>hi
[00:33]<vxysgyacysdygn>hey guys, my mac mini wont start up any more. is my only option to boot it as a fw disk and copy the user account data to my backup drive with my powerbook, reinstall, then copy it back?
[00:34]<zyzxzzmp>thisnickismine: archive and install
[00:34]<vxysgyacysdygn>what's archive and install?
[00:36]<wzzgzum>is there a way to "force" an installation I can't install X11User.dmg? the setup says a newer version is installed but I've already removed it (via fink)
[00:42]<dzzu>where did you get X11user.dmg from?
[00:43]<wzzgzum>maru: from apple site
[00:43]<wzzgzum>same problem from the dvd
[00:44]<zj2js>man, finding a good text editor like Kate for the Mac is tough
[00:44]<wzzgzum>I have installed xfree 4.5 from fink then gimp and Openoffice 2

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