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[00:04]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>sjamaan: hmm, christos didn't give me any further hints for my host name problem on 68k
[00:04]<srrdrrg>:(
[00:05]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>but I hope you can assure me that bind shouldn't be the problem
[00:05]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>knowing where the asserts actually are could help diagnosing where the problem comes from
[00:05]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>33545
[00:06]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>rillig: by setting the env var and then updating my common dir, I was able to complete "make depend"
[00:06]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>I hope make completes too now
[00:06]<srrdrrg>bai
[00:12]<lzynsv>Is it true that Sendmail is now removed from NetBSD base?
[00:13]<dyfjsg>looks like it
[00:15]<rflxrwrvns>yar, time goes by...
[00:16]<dyfjsg>it does
[00:17]<mrvnbsm>say what??
[00:17]<mrvnbsm>what replaces sendmail?
[00:18]<dzezycssjg>postfix probably
[00:18]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>daveBSD: sendmail is there to stay, don't worry
[00:18]<lzynsv>grey_gandalf, sure?
[00:18]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>I hope so at least
[00:19]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>priest: no, not sure at all
[00:19]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>:)
[00:19]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>some people have some unjustified hate against sendmail which works and is maintained fine
[00:20]<dyfjsg>i think i saw a post on netbsd-current that it has been removed
[00:20]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>weenies
[00:20]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>I can't believe my favourite OS got ruined
[00:20]<dyfjsg>which should mean it wont be in 4.0
[00:20]<lzynsv>http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2006/05/29/0005.html
[00:20]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>apple replaced tcsh with bash as default sh.. what bsd is that?
[00:21]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>there is no more religion
[00:21]<dyfjsg>nope
[00:21]<dyfjsg>god is no more
[00:21]<rflxrwrvns>dude
[00:21]<rflxrwrvns>god i absolute
[00:21]<mrvnbsm>fuckin aye
[00:21]<rflxrwrvns>;)
[00:21]<mrvnbsm>now i'm going to have to learn postfix
[00:22]<mrvnbsm>fuck
[00:22]<lzynsv>so now netbsd only ship a unfree mailer, great.
[00:22]<rflxrwrvns>hahaha
[00:22]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>daveBSD: protest
[00:22]<mrvnbsm>took me forever to get sendmail working
[00:22]<dyfjsg>postfix is cool
[00:22]<lzynsv>milosn, and unfree
[00:22]<rflxrwrvns>daveBSD> use sendmail from pkgsrc
[00:22]<dyfjsg>i am probably not the one to compare the 2
[00:22]<dyfjsg>since i never really learned sendmail
[00:22]<dyfjsg>:)
[00:24]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>AlphaWaves: but then you have a useless postfix installation around
[00:24]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>mabe both should be in pkgsrc
[00:24]<rflxrwrvns>grey_gandalf> so that's not making sense
[00:24]<rflxrwrvns>i think they removed it due to security reason
[00:25]<zz0w>grey_gandalf: sendmail is full of security problem
[00:25]<zz0w>cf recents dicovery
[00:25]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>ar0x: they get fixed regularly
[00:25]<lzynsv>if openbsd trust sendmail, why wouldn't netbsd users?
[00:25]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>ok. I have the final answer
[00:25]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>priest: good point
[00:25]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>but I have a better one
[00:25]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>sendmail icon is better than postfix
[00:26]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>like the dameon is jsut better than a sucky penguin
[00:26]<dyfjsg>since when is openbsd some only true certificate of security?
[00:26]<dyfjsg>i mean i know they are trying hard to make it look like that
[00:26]<lzynsv>milosn, since when did they not care about security?
[00:27]<dyfjsg>hmmm
[00:27]<dyfjsg>dont wanna talk about openbsd
[00:27]<wjj2d>howdy
[00:28]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>openbsd is fine, they just dropped 68030 support and so I moved my faifhful mac to netbsd as it originally was
[00:28]<dyfjsg>hi wooby
[00:28]<lzynsv>but it's much cleaner to only have one mailer now
[00:29]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>priest: I never noticed that there was postfix
[00:29]<wjj2d>i'm having a peculiar problem configuring a non-pkgsrc version of php which has pkgsrc-built dependencies
[00:29]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>I knew it was there, but it occupied just diskspace probably
[00:29]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>wooby: like ?
[00:29]<wjj2d>it seems when i run configure with --with-libxml2-dir=/usr/pkg (libxml2 being something i built with pkgsrc) the script is unable to find libxml2
[00:30]<wjj2d>i've tried some derivatives like /usr/pkg/lib and still no luck
[00:31]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/pkg/lib
[00:31]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>then retry configuring
[00:32]<wjj2d>alright i'll give that a shot
[00:34]<wjj2d>grey_gandalf: i did the bash equivalent of what you suggested
[00:34]<wjj2d>grey_gandalf: and was greeted by configure: error: xml2-config not found.
[00:34]<wjj2d>:(
[00:36]<zzgm_zrgmrpp> --with-libxml2-dir=/usr/pkg/lib probably
[00:36]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>possibly it doesn't find the includes?
[00:36]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>copy the error line you get
[00:39]<zzgm_zrgmrpp>I'm going to bed now

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